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 Post subject: Re: Autism remarks
PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:11 pm 
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This is the internet, everyone is entitled to say whatever the fuck they want. If it has consequences​ or not, that is a different subject but for the time being calling people retard, faggot, autistic, etc. Does not. Only thing that does, is racial slurs. So until New rules are added, either grow thicker skin, brush it off, or simply leave.


Well technically it should have consequences since there are rules against it. But that would require people to actually read the rules so idk.

Be respectful to everyone!
Do not act like an asshole
No discrimination of any kind.


I can see why it's misconstrued. Racism is largely seen as a more pressing issue, and so we crack down on any type of racism, even jokes about it are stricly a no go. Whereas jokes about other things are seen as acceptable, and I think, we as a community and team of admins need to crack down on this in order to make everyone feel welcome on the EgN servers, because everyobdy is welcome and we'd hate to think somebody saw the servers as a hostile environment because their personal issues are being poked fun at.


See the issue I personally have with this statement is where does it stop? So we right now we can't be racist, next we cant insult disabilities, what's next? We cant be sexist? Okay then what? We can't use pronouns such as he, she, her, him because we can't assume genders? We can't always be politically correct all the time. All the fun of these servers is the communication that happens on the server. People says the stupidest shit on this all the time and it's funny and memorable. But yeah sometimes it goes to far but those times you report it or get an admin. Personally I feel like the set rules right now are fine.


"If we make gay marriage legal, how long is it gonna be until people can marry their dogs?"

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"what's next? We cant be sexist?"

No discrimination of any kind.

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 Post subject: Re: Autism remarks
PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:19 pm 
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Hey listen caboose, if you wanna Nazi run egn rejoin and do so. Otherwise why try to make egn a safe spot that gives everyone hugs and cuddles? This a game for mature adults, and I say that loosely. If everyone wants to joke around and say shit like"your clit is bigger than my dick" jokes and no one is really offended, who cares? Because as soon as you start implementing rules of "political correctness" you are starting to kill the server. I mean for God's sake the clans name used to be OG 420 or some shit and that's not kid friend or is supporting drug use or whatever bullshit you wanna spin on it


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 Post subject: Re: Autism remarks
PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:40 pm 
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Hey listen caboose, if you wanna Nazi run egn rejoin and do so. Otherwise why try to make egn a safe spot that gives everyone hugs and cuddles? This a game for mature adults, and I say that loosely. If everyone wants to joke around and say shit like"your clit is bigger than my dick" jokes and no one is really offended, who cares? Because as soon as you start implementing rules of "political correctness" you are starting to kill the server. I mean for God's sake the clans name used to be OG 420 or some shit and that's not kid friend or is supporting drug use or whatever bullshit you wanna spin on it


I'm not trying to make EgN do anything and i'm definitely not trying to turn it into a safe space. I was just pointing out that sexism was already against the rules, since you seemed to have forgotten what discrimination means. And sure if noone complains about it then it's fine, but being "respectful to everyone" means stopping when someone complains. This is why there are no more racist memes on the "Got memes" thread, because people were offended and we stopped.

Plus it used to be called 420mafia and the name was changed because it was limiting the growth of the community.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:07 pm 
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If you want to cater to every special snowflake that gets offended, go ahead and do so but by the time you're done no one would want to be apart of a community that is afraid of saying anything due to being chastised for offending someone.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:21 pm 
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If you want to cater to every special snowflake that gets offended, go ahead and do so but by the time you're done no one would want to be apart of a community that is afraid of saying anything due to being chastised for offending someone.


Don't exaggerate.

The reason most communities became popular was because they were seen as a friendly place to hang out and play games, this atmosphere was achieved by enforcing their rules and keeping toxic players off their servers. And somehow this didn't scare away most of their player-base as you seem to believe it would, sure a lot of players who are regulars here wouldn't have managed to stay there long behaving the way they do.

Most players out there don't want to deal with the cluster-fuck of toxicity and drama that EgN JB has been turning into and therefore they will go somewhere else, leaving a dedicated player-base that seems to revel in it.
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 Post subject: Re: Autism remarks
PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:25 pm 
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There is a certain extent to when you can joke around. Joking around by saying autism jokes or any other joke revolving around disorders or problems isn't funny at all. And part of being mature is to be respectful to others.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:30 pm 
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What toxicity are you referring to? Because I haven't even seen you in the server once since I started playing here. There were only a few incident of toxicity and admins+ handled those situations. The main arguments on this forum isn't between players/regulars against egn, it's egn vs egn. Where all members fight aganst each other. So enforcing new rules won't fix the toxicity, policing your members will.


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 Post subject: Re: Autism remarks
PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:50 pm 
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There's two sides to this, yes it can be interpreted as being disrespectful but it's only as big as you make it.

I wouldn't assume we have a majority of people staying involved in this community because it feels safe or family friendly.

I think we as a community have been pretty open minded when it comes to any sort of dark humor, as long as it stayed a joke.

While I do agree there's a line that shouldn't be crossed, you're playing with people from wide aspects of life and sometimes you'll disagree with their humor.

Although I think there's a lot of merit in dealing with issues like this situationally, why enforce the rule if nobody is being vocal about their objection?


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:05 pm 
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God no enough with the sensitivity honestly. It's the internet you're playing a online shooting game. I feel like you made this post to troll in all honesty because or is it because of this generation feeling of entitlement I'm not being rude or anything but if you can't handle insults online I can only imagine how fragile you are in real life. Build some thick skin it'll help you in life.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:07 pm 
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So we all should take in to account that there are many ways to say one word.

Such as the word "Nigger". Now a lot of people would get mad at me for even saying it or typing it. Well, there are two ways to say the word. You can use it in an educational way, saying that black slaves were once called nigger's by their slave owners, or quoting Uncle Tom's Cabin. But, if you are referring to the racial term, you'd most likely want to say the "N word". For example, "You stupid fucking n word." If you are using it in a way that is educational, most people will be fine, but once you walk up to a black man and say it, you're just asking for death.

So to refer to the Autism word, it works the same way. However, there is something we all should be focusing on more here.

Yes, Idubbbz is a cancerous piece of shit, but he made a very valid point when he was talking about the usage of the words nigger, towelhead, chink, spic, and so on and so forth. This is what he said:




So if you think its totally okay to call someone "retarded" but you hate when people call you or others "autistic", then you are basically saying "I dont like it when you shoot someone when I just shot someone." Pretty stupid huh?

So I think you all need to re-evaluate what you say and do. If you dont like being called a retard, dont call others names. Because "Its rather all okay, or none of its okay." You rather accept all the names being called, or dont call anyone names, because your being hypocritical when you call someone a dirty spic, but get offended when someone calls you a stupid nigger. (Using those offensive words in an educational sense.)

So just remember that for next time.
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