Okay so they paid to get admin, everything makes sense now. But no, each time there was no other issues currently happening in the game, and multiple people mentioned the freekill that happened to me. If they were paying attention to the game in the examples I mentioned then it would have been obvious it was a freekill given the situation. Obviously I don't expect them to know what happened instantly each time but I tried to communicate to them for minutes with radio silence, while there were multiple admins on.





Why do you give people that donate admin? Why not just accept donations and not give them power if they don't know how to use it? Why not have people apply to be admin and give the community a say on their opinion on the person's legitimacy for the position and have meetings with current staff to go over the applications that have received notable community acceptance to be your moderators to see if they're suitable, then train them? It just gives people false hope for trying to get help to resolve a situation. If you guys are having an issue with donations that aren't projected towards people being given power, maybe create a store in game where you can earn credits by playing X amount of minutes to get skins and give the donators credits for donating so that there is still an incentive but not one that can make or break players' experience on the server.



Like I said, I don't care if I get freekilled, I have an issue with people that should be able to help people not help people. Clearly there is an issue if people are complaining about the admins on the server, but nice one playing it off casually that you don't really care about people's concerns for trying to have fun playing the game my man.



If I was trying to pretend then I wouldn't have mentioned that I wasn't talking shit and I would have cried about the temp ban that I got, I knew I was being a cunt after multiple admins weren't doing their job. Wasn't acting like I did nothing wrong towards the end. I give respect where it's due.



Lmao there were other admins on that were popping off about how he "told him" clearly the other admins jerk each other off. Once again, this wouldn't be an issue if you did not have a poor system to decide who get's admin. The best measure to fix a problem is to prevent it.



Refer to my suggestion for not letting people that are unqualified to have powers to permanently remove someone from the game by throwing a few bucks at your server. Believe it or not, it actually should be an admins job to help the community.



Once again, I called them incompetent after they were being incompetent. Are we not allowed to be honest on the server? Nothing negative can ever be said to the admins eh? It's not like I got freekilled then immediately started popping off.



Wouldn't have to weed out the badmins if unqualified people weren't given the position to begin with.

whens shitposting

1. Understandable but there were a handful of admins actively playing at the time.
2. I used it multiple times, to no response.
3. I shouldn't have to make a forum post for a minor slay when there are multiple admins on at the time.
4. Nothing else was really happening, other people mentioned my issue, so if anything that should have been the most abundant and obvious concern.


Nah, I don't really talk on mic, that's the thing I mentioned in my post. Really the only people that get help are the ones that are constantly ear raping the mic with "FREEKILL!!!!". Probably because it's impossible for the admins to ignore that. But it shouldn't have to come to that, really.

Ok yea so don't really want to break down points in this giant ass reply but, allow me to point out a few things:

- Yea, we donate to get admin. But that's not all there is to it. Say that you, right now, a player, wanted to get admin. So first, you'd have to apply to be a recruit, which is basically guaranteed by the way. The recruitment process lasts about a month before you get voted upon to become a member. Provided that you even get voted in by the community, you have to wait a full month before you are allowed to even apply for admin. Most admin applications take about 2 weeks to be accepted, all the meanwhile for other admins to see and review, to post whether or not they think that person would be a good admin. Staff+ determine from that and observed behavior whether or not the member gets admin, after they donate of course. So at best, it would take you 2 and a half months to get admin, all the while ensuring you are well liked by both other members and staff+. Not an easy rodeo for some. So people don't just come in here and get admin because they paid for it. There's a process, and tons of guides and rules we are expected to follow. And if you look through the forums, it's honestly not that hard to lose your admin, at least temporarily. Just like admins can't watch all the players, the higher ups can't watch all the admins, so it's up to community to inform them through a complaint.

- Can you honestly name some server or network or community where people actually say that community has "good" admins? (Don't actually name it) I'm not trying to say EgN's admins are perfect, but never in my gaming life have I seen a community where people say that the admins are "good." People find any way possible to blame admins for anything that could've gone wrong, anywhere. It's what people do. Exhibit A would be this thread.

- Just cause you don't see admins handling a situation doesn't mean they aren't. I handle situations by privately messaging a player to resolve the problem, so it doesn't get broadcast to the entire server, because there's no need for that in my opinion. Sorry if we don't instantly tell you we're on it, as Yiggles said, we are players too. So following/giving orders, privately messaging a player about their actions, and telling someone we're handling it doesn't tend to happen in the span of 7 seconds as people seem to expect it should. Not to mention some of my fellow admins are slow ass typers

- So yea, if you think an admin is doing something wrong, complain about it. Worst thing that will happen to you is somebody will tell you "no that didn't happen" while the admin could potentially be kicked out of the clan and perm banned. (It's happened!)

And personally, if somebody spams admin chat and floods it with insulting messages about how I'm not doing my job, I won't help them, sorry. That's probably not right, but I have no desire to help someone who can't even respect basically everything that I just said above or me. Having admin can be fun but it's not always easy. Just ask once nicely, and I'll see what I can do about it, simple.

Not to be the devil's advocate here but I think the jailbreak community is thoroughly different than most of EgN. Most of the randoms are the people consistantly making it fun, sometimes by breaking a minor rule. The "unqualified" admins are so disconnected from the flow of the server they put their foot down over minor things and punish without hesitation, ruining other players experiences. When people confront higher up staff about not keeping a close enough eye on the servers they just fall behind excuses as to why they're too busy. Which is not a problem but maybe promote a few members to higher up positions? Not tighten the rules and ban more of the population, because we certainly dont have enough active members to fill the server. Not to insult EgN but I think this whole issue is dumb, you need admins who can stay laid back and enjoy the jailbreak community for what it is while it lasts.

We don't give everyone who donates admin. Everyone who has has applied, then they have a 2 week period where members/current admins give their say on the applicant and then we as the higher ups accept or deny based on those responses by the current admins if they should have admin.

Well admins aren't made they're Bourne

But in all seriousness, yea, I get that the idea is to have fun. But I don't make the rules, neither do the other admins (not directly anyway), we enforce them. So if you feel that being strict on the rules on the problem, well, can't really help you there. EgN has always tried to make its servers playable and open to anyone and everyone, and that's something as an admin I like to uphold. I get rules can be annoying, and often they are, but yea, still rules. If somebody's being too hard/potentially taking away "fun," I recommend just talking to them. Just add em on steam or find them on TeamSpeak and let them know how you feel. If one things for sure, nothing can be solved behind anyone else's back. Going along with what I said in my first reply, communication is important. Make complaints as needed and talk it out. Heading into it respectful and mature will likely get the problem resolved. After all, this is a community.

I agree with you, but the community as a whole shaped the rules of the jailbreak server. It's not any one persons fault really, I think everyone just needs to tone it down and stop looking for conflict.

Not to mention most of our current admins are new since almost all of our seasoned admins derail from the server after playing so much.

#bringbackadminschool

Clearly this system needs some work if you keep getting admins that don't know what they're doing. Or you should put some more effort into teaching them how and when to use their admin.


Can confirm, admin school needed.

Many admins I've seen in JB recently have been really bad. Surprisingly they're not all new admins though I've seen elites and veterans do this shit too.
And it seems that a lot of the current admins are unaware of the "Order Of Operations" you should take before banning someone (e.g mute, warn, kick and then ban for a short amount of time). I've seen admins use the kick as a warning and then ban for a second offence, which is not what is supposed to happen.
(Don't worry your pretty little head about it, I tell them what they're doing wrong and what to do in the future.)

CSS is already a dying game, and if you want to keep population in the server maybe you should try not to ban them for the most trivial shit you can find.
For example Geeza banning someone (aka Timmy) for having the name "Bourne Jason" because EgN has an advisor called Bourne.


And can someone change the colour or transparency or fucking anything of this fucking box so I can actually see what i'm typing over this stupid fucking picture background?