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 Post subject: Re: Higher-Up's Activity
PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2016 4:50 pm 
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I don't feel that being a supporter is a removal i see it as someone who will be rejoining in the future.

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<3 But that will never happen I'm afraid. :lol:

BUT SRSLY,

Promoting more Staff = more potential candidates for Advisor. With more choices, you will inevitably be promoting better Advisor's. If one of your Orange boys leaves now, you only have two potential candidates to step up. Unless of course, you promote Wartheft back to that old position. I think it's slim pickings.

There's also a lot to say about having an ambitious, proactive approach to managing the community. You could move rightful candidates to Staff, give them servers to manage and let them commit energy to growth instead of responsibility.


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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2016 8:15 pm 
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Mootinie wrote:
roaxes96 wrote:
Phillip wrote:
I don't feel that being a supporter is a removal i see it as someone who will be rejoining in the future.

The return of Mootinie is confirmed!

<3 But that will never happen I'm afraid. :lol:
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BUT SRSLY,

Promoting more Staff = more potential candidates for Advisor. With more choices, you will inevitably be promoting better Advisor's. If one of your Orange boys leaves now, you only have two potential candidates to step up. Unless of course, you promote Wartheft back to that old position. I think it's slim pickings.

There's also a lot to say about having an ambitious, proactive approach to managing the community. You could move rightful candidates to Staff, give them servers to manage and let them commit energy to growth instead of responsibility.

While I agree with what you are saying, but i also believe that quantity doesn't always mean quality. When people are given servers to manage, or moderation on the forums, they all fall just like higher ups do. We've both been through this cycle so many times and know how it goes. We have always had periods of good, and periods of bad, we just need to try to cycle and find the right ones. I feel that we (meaning the staff who were considered decent) were all always ambitious prior to our promotions. I also feel that nobody has that drive now, and all of these posts are cool in thought, but we're not seeing the potential in anyone with actual potential.


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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2016 9:28 pm 
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Hi.

So some of you probably don't know me but a lot of you do. I've taken a pretty prolonged LOA from EgN and Counter Strike for a while. I've come back to play/participate in community (great, right). I play JB mostly and minigames occasionally, I'm an admin on JB and been in EgN since Summer 2014, so like 2 years. I know I have't been around as long as a most of you, but I just like to throw the 2 years out there to show I've been here long enough to see a few of the ups and downs. In the 3 days I've "rejoined" (even though I never "left" - never removed my tags or resigned) I must say I've been pretty satisfied. I've put in maybe 5 hours a day in these 3 days, so probably around 15 hours. I've already seen and talked to almost all of the advisors and staff. I've made maybe 5 bans in this time, and each time, within no joke 5 minutes after I made the report, they were all extended, with a reply. Sinister even added me on steam to sort out a conflict with one of my bans. So I've seen some activity and thats a good positive. Again, I haven't been around these past few months and the forums can only update you so much, so I can't vouche for what has or hasn't happened. But my 2 cents is that it doesn't seem as entirely horrible as everyone is making it out to be. From my naive 3 day viewpoint.

On the Con side of what I've observed, there are very little admins and aside from the few times I've seen the advisors and staff come on, I don't think I have seen a single person higher than member come online for more than 5 minutes except for Phillip. So, thats probably not good idk.

Just thought I'd throw this stuff out there to stir the pot a little so not everyone is all against the higher ups. This community is still pretty cool in my opinion, and I'd like to stay a part of it and help when I can.

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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2016 10:38 pm 
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Matt your sample size of 3 days is not valid enough to be a considerable contribution.
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2016 6:22 am 
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Ambitny wrote:
Matt your sample size of 3 days is not valid enough to be a considerable contribution.



mattlikespie10 wrote:
Again, I haven't been around these past few months and the forums can only update you so much, so I can't vouche for what has or hasn't happened.


Lol?
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2016 7:24 am 
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Bourne is here all the time during US time but he does hide in his teamspeak channel. But always there on steam chat but can seem unresponsive when playing CSGO games. All of them are cause when they all group up and play CSGO they don't talk to no one, Cause of Competitive rules.


Yes but is hiding in your channel really a smart thing to do? Why make yourself inaccessible like that? It comes off as him not wanting us to bother him, and we can't even see that hes in his channel because of the way it was set up.

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I think everyone who left when doldol was running things shouldn't get their position back. Because you made the choice to leave and you made the choice to toss up all that hard work you did. <3


While they did make the choice to leave, they weren't really given great options either. They were demoted due to personal drama, not even because of their merit. We no longer have that source of drama, therefore there should be no problems when they return to their original ranks.



First of all EgN is full of drama there's always something going on. Most of it's behind closed doors cause you feel shitty when you report someone or get reported. SALT

Do you ever take the chance to just talk to bourne?

Do you think hes avoiding us or are we avoiding him?

I'm sure bourne wants to join in with us but he's probably trying to keep a higher up and member relationship low. Cause it would hurt if your bestfriend is yelling at you or having to be the one doing the yelling.


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 Post subject: Re: Higher-Up's Activity
PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2016 9:05 am 
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Lex wrote:
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Just to be clear I agree some of the old higher ups were really good... but they didn't stay here through the hard times(meaning when a lot of people left etc.), me, Jimmah and Shen did.


True but you guys were all Veterans at the time & you guys weren't aware what was going on in the higher up world. We literally had no say in anything which resulted in us leaving
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There was only One reason why people left around that time... You guys had nothing to do with anything that happened.. Either you/they didn't have their higher up positions, or just recently got it. Just look at SilverHybrid, who was staff like just a week or less.. (I don't remember if he got demoted or left) because he straight up spoke out about what we were all thinking and what the problem was.
(I wrote this before i saw the post Lex made)
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 Post subject: Re: Higher-Up's Activity
PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2016 9:13 am 
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I've said that we needed more EU higher ups, as Staff+ are never on for my time. (GMT/EU time)

The current Staff+ seem to be doing a good job, Sinister could be a little more involved on the forums, but i don't have any major dramas.

If anything was going to happen to the current higher ups, then i'd say a European (or close to) staff member or two.

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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2016 9:15 am 
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I nominate Mr. Habibi as our European representative.

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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2016 9:17 am 
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CharlieKelly wrote:
I nominate Mr. Habibi as our European representative.

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Fuck that. If habibi gets Staff, i might consider death. Just no. Please, no. Staff+ i fucking beg, don't make Habibi Staff+.
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