Mr. Simplistic wrote:
Nickolas Magnus wrote:
Mr. Simplistic wrote:
Wartheft wrote:
Mr. Simplistic wrote:
i'm surprised you cant even see where im coming from on this, its not like i'm saying they can shoot CT's, T's can already knife secrets without getting shot, whats the big deal if he shoots a pistol at one to open it faster so he can use it later?
My problem isn't the actual matter of the shooting, it's the matter of it's been a thing for years that firing a weapon is rebelling. I don't even have a problem if a CT doesn't shoot a T for doing it, but a CT shouldn't be punished for shooting a T for doing it for the exact same reason why a T shouldn't be shot for doing it: It isn't listed. Even arguing the semantics of it doesn't matter. It's not stated either way so it shouldn't technically be punished nor enforced. If a CT chooses to shoot him so be it, and if a CT decides to not shoot him so be it.
CT's connot kill T's for "unlisted" actions, period
for years we have been playing with those rules. If a CT kills a T for an "unlisted" reason, thats called a freekill (killing a T without them breaking orders or rules)
The only person i know that was trying to change that was chips saying "jumping is not running" so since it was a not a rule to be able to jump while running he killed any T who choose to jump instead of run. to him it was "common sense not to jump" while to others it was "common sense to be able to jump" The higher ups (you might have even been one of them) decided that if it a T did not break order or rule, no CT should be allowed to kill a T for "unlisted" reasons.
What you are proposing is to change this precedent and i do not think thats a good idea for the server, but if you want to make a case for it thats up to you.
Actually, if we want a rule to enforce for the matter of a T shooting a gun freely, then let's refer to this unchecked tid bit of fun.
46-You must play your role as a guard. Guards(CT)The term "failRP" is not commonly seen in our server as well...we don't actually roleplay out our lives as a guard...we just play a game. so, should shooting a prisoner shooting a gun for any reason be executed?
In rl, if a prisoner some how obtained a firearm, with bullets, and started firing away at his bed because..well..fuck his bed....he most likely would be jammed into the corner of his room by atleast 7 other people all wearing armor with thick shields.
To the best we can do in our server...we would simply just shoot the prisoner.
so if you want to be extremely anal about this, the other rule that we already have could be used to enforce this situation
14-No Favortism. Guards (CT)There we go, rules in place just for this situation.
The best we can do is shoot T"s for having knives brandished in front of guards, role playing only goes to far, and it tells you in the rules what your role is if im not mistaken. (on my phone so cant check from here) ylu can freekill way too much if u just say "well thats like real prison" its like kharn says, its jailbreak not Auschwitz simulator 16.
Just follow whats clearly written in the rules and you wont have a problem (sounds crazy right?)
Sorry man, must have missed that, it's cool though, I got it for ya.
for sakes of RP in a server where the default weapon is a knife, and without any mods to change that, would if you want to be that deep into the game...shivs/fists. now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying "ugh, my role playing experience is not good enough, the prisoners must have the fists in place of knives!" if you can recall when doldol decided to do the stupidest thing which was FORCE custom skins on p[layers/lag the server to shit.
now, let's go over the situation at hand in the post. ready?
map:JB_razor(anything)_bsm
6-cts
11-ts
out of those numbers, at least one t will spawn in the notorious guncell in the upper/lower section
so, we have one of many things to happen.
scrub t- ignores the gun/dosnt know it's there
rebel heavy t- will take the gun, place it in a place where it's easier to grab, then when moved, grab it again.
most EGN Jb players- will just run out with the gun
roaxes-wont touch it
But none of that was important, I just wanted to waste some of your time.
so, a T shooting a gun freely for fuck all reasoning.
kill him
see? it's easy. (sounds crazy, right?!)
"but nick, what if he's just making a toy gun?!"
No favortism, play your role as a guard.
you wanted a "rules as written" answer for this problem, I found it for ya....why not accept it?
it dosnt go off 'common sense' nor is it an unwritten rule...it's right there...you can even touch it.
Mr. Simplistic
