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The fact you clearly didn't read the post that Matt had made that I was referring to makes me not want to respond to you at all, but he made it clear that Steam and Discord would also be acceptable evidence. I'm not sure why Matt didn't do anything based off my evidence, I recall he was busy IRL at the time and didn't look to far into my PM since he was already aware of the situation. I'm assuming you won't actually go back and read the post since you didn't read it the first time but here it is.
I read the post, but let me go back to the end of mine...
What is Matt's jurisdiction to say what is and isn't allowed OUTSIDE of egn? He leads egn, he doesn't have anything to say outside of that. Sure he could ban if they break rules in or on egn services. Or even not allow people in for it but think how that looks on u lol.
To understand that u need to go to your advertisement definition. Sure advertisement is what it said there:
"The verb advertise means to publicize a service or product in order to try to get you to buy or use it"
But there are different degrees in your advertisement. U have advertisement like big companies do it (tv,YouTube,newspapers,...) U got it like small companies( flyers,maybe small newspapers) and u just got mouth to mouth advertisement. Which barely is advertisement.
Mouth to mouth goes because people like something and will then spread the word to other people. Indi likes his server better and is passing the word that he thinks his server is better. It is his server so his opinion is hugely influenced.
But I guess others think it's better aswell. But back to the advertisement. U got different degrees in advertisement, and what indi and his players would be doing is barely advertising and more like just inviting their friends to have fun.
In which i already stated that inviting your friends for fun is not wrong.
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I've already addressed the rest of this point aside from "not even possible population because I don't see any of them on egn jb". I'm not sure what you are trying to say here but if you are trying to say there is no population to steal because EgN JB is dead I don't think you understand how population works. If he advertises his server to our regulars and the core of our player base and they switch, obviously our server is going to take a hit because our main demographic is gone. The server was still pulling on average ~15 players before this and was starting to recover from the IP change and the visibility issues. If the server is 0/32 because all of the regulars are gone, nobody is going to join the server over a populated one.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/population?s=tThat is population,right there. The inhabitants/players of egn, if u putt it in context here. Now, egn doesn't have any players on JB anymore or very few. Which means there is almost 0 population to steal with "advertising". And no it's not because of indi, this is mostly because of the events before that.
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I never said this topic was strictly about GP, but the conversation you and multiple others were engaging in at the time was specifically focused on GP which is what I was referring to. Read what I said again, I never once said (or implied) this entire thread/post is specifically about GP, only the current conversation and discussion (which you were engaging in and were well aware of).
So my point of them only blaming GP still stands. That what I said there was more of a question with an answer alrdy added if u actually meant the whole topic.
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See above. It's not me "claiming it's wrong" Matt specifically said there would be zero tolerance for it, including other platforms like on Steam and Discord. I can just combat this with the same logic "just cause you think it's not wrong doesn't mean it's not wrong". Matt, the leader of this community, said it is wrong, so it is.
My logic stands by a worldwide acceptance for any civilized form of advertisement.
Matt is leader of egn, and his power is restricted to egn alone.
Which I alrdy covered.
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Both of the things that I am comparing can be boiled down to "Individual A breaks the rules by telling Individual B about a choice that Individual B can make. Individual A still did something wrong regardless how Individual B responded to the choice". The whole point of the analogy is that just because it's their choice doesn't mean the person giving them the choice isn't doing something wrong.
So u mean individual A breaks rules from somebody,in a place where that person/authority doesn't even have the power/right to putt rules? Great analogy.
Let me give u a better one. Even tho I don't like comparing egn to a country,but let's do it now.
Egn is Saudi Arabia, and no advertisement is the law in which is stated that woman can't drive a car.
Let's say indi is a woman that drives a car in America,Europe or anywhere else in the world. And then Saudi Arabia would say "no we don't allow that,u will be putt up for execution" or "we do not allow u in our country anymore"
I am certain that if something like that would happen majority of u would be like "wtf is their problem they can't do that" yet now u people say u will do the exact same.
The woman is given a choice aswell, she didn't have to drive the car. Is the government at fault because they let her have a choice?
Then later , I didn't say the complete opposite at the end.
I support the "dont advertise " rule, but I also believe that the "power" of that rules and consequences as u say it are limited to egn stuff alone. U can't bank or punish somebody for offences commuted outside of egn unless they are part of the membership in which u would be able to sanction them for breaking community rules.
Then especially this sentence is interesting.
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If they are doing something to hurt the community or against its rules, they shouldn't be welcome here.
If u want to follow up on that, ban everybody. Because everybody has used the n word atleast once (from the mature members) but u don't? Everybody has shit talked egn before.
Yio even fucking mfked, which hurts the reputation of egn. Yet I don't see u standing up to ban him or remove him.
It will always be a matter of how severe is the damage and if u really care. This time it's "really bad and harmful for egn" just because egn servers are dead atm (css that is) and because people make a drama about it. In other occasions, when egn would do rlly well,nobody would make a problem about being invited there
And if indi is also banning people for saying stuff here and on steam I disagree with that aswell. I think it's bad in any way and bad no matter who does it. I don't know why u would even bring that up. As if u think I would say I agree with it if he did it. And even if he does it ,doesn't mean egn should do it aswell.
And what part of your thing was 99% original?
The part where u say that egn needs to go to other games aswell?
The part where u say css is dying?
Not like anynody has said that we need to support the servers more,right?
No I get it now. It's the part where u call everybody up to screenshot evidence of GP trying to "steal" people away from egn and report it. Ye that has to be it. Not like Matt claimed it's against the rules of egn, and not like every staff always tells people to report rule breakers.
What u said is only what other people say/or have been saying for years just worded slightly different and then posted here to make it look like u would have an original opinion.
Let me pop your bubble right there: most people have the same opinion on things. When it comes to problems this counts even more since ussualy people who play together they experience the same stuff
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