Xanderian wrote:
BriBee wrote:
Wanty wrote:
Xanderian wrote:
Yiggles Moto wrote:
Xanderian wrote:
Where the fuck is winter?
He left the clan
so then who the hell is replacing him lol
minigames when
no one, the development team is suppose to work in cooperation with it but we sorta don't have a
working development team; salt is the only one that i've seen work at the slightest with any other server besides jailbreak
Like I said in chat. We were having a small issue with fast dl. He's been working on it today and we're trying to fix it. But he is only one person and I know its frustrating. But I promise we are trying.....
yeah except dev team was supposed to be working in cooperation half a year ago two, and even then everyone just pointed me to winter.
Where's the teamwork in that? And now, you're saying "he" and "one person"? You mean to tell me that of the 10 people listed as being in the dev team (not including noreh [dyno's alt], kharn, and matt), not one person thought to ask "Hey, how do I setup a FastDL?" or a "Do you need any help with the MG server?" over the many months it's been like this?
Shit, I know for a fact that Doldol, Dyno, and plenty of others would have been more than willing to help anyone figure that shit out if the people actually had the initiative to go and approach them. At the very least they'd have passed it off to someone else. Yet not a damn one has been trying to get that shit done? Some dev team you have going there.
And where are all the staff+ on this? You all pretty much have the combined power (even if probably not individually) to change out the dev team if it needs to be done or to give people needed things like panel access. You all have staff meetings, which are a powerful tool, so why not use them? You all have all the power that the members and regulars do not, and yet the dev team still clearly is filled with members who aren't doing anything. Make a fucking staff+ vote if you have to but something has got to happen with that minigames server.
I'm sorry if you think I'm being rude but this shit needs to be said. That server has been dead for far too long. It's actually starting to get depressing.
Never said the development team was ever at first-rate, or even near that. It's should have been fairly clear that the development team won't ever hit that marker because we
(and have always since managers) have lacked the knowledge, skill, and motivation to those who have joined the development team
(or have become managers before the development team was introduced). The only real expectation on a working server now is if someone like Dyno or Doldol joins the clan, and wants to fix these servers. No offense to those in the development team now but I think it's quite under-debate to say otherwise
(especially to NaCl because i know he's been trying the most).
And no, it's not that the development team hasn't thought about asking questions about the server it's the fact that no one is willing to help them, give them access, and/or that they don't want to
Trust me, from being Staff, since the development team was created it has never been at any rate, at the slightest of good.
More simply said:
takes up free time
its boring
it takes a lot of time
(once again) & knowledge
requires patience, skill, and communication (again)
did i mention it's boring?
no one wants to do it, people join this clan to play games, not to setup servers
People join the development team
(just as the rest of the groups) to be more active, and help within the clan, normally those who aren't familiar with how to setup a server, and realise it's much harder than it seemed
dj7joke, inactive
Mr Majestic, inactive
NaCl, probably the only one that does things but again, takes a lot of time & effort, and cooperation
KathyThePurpleLlama, pretty sure is in there for the minecraft server
Secret Agent, inactive
Starscream1994, inactive
So, you have one person besides Staff+ in the development team, and even then I'm sure NaCl can agree that it's pretty tedious, takes a lot of time, and knowledge to setup a working server
(not that he lacks knowledge)Now in regards to asking Dyno or Doldol for help, very unlikely, it's pretty hard as a member to get a message to those two
(no offense), Dyno
(more often than not because he was the more go to for dev). But I don't blame them, Dyno got tired of consistently being asked about severs, and always having to end up doing it himself because of the lack of skill & knowledge to do so. This isn't a blow to anyone, but for the fact that no one has the incentive to go out of their way to do these things. This has been said plenty of times, even by Dyno, the
"just ask" but it's not that easy.
"Some dev team you have going there." Pretty contentious comment.
Now regarding Staff,
(this was when I was Staff, so it may be different now) the development team was at first not allowed to add anything to the servers without getting a confirmation from Dyno, and if you knew, it was always pretty difficult to get a response from Dyno even by me. Then from what I remember it was the same from when the development team was passed onto dj7joke but he soon when inactive as well. No one
(on Staff) could give panel access, or knew how to, at the time either except for Dyno
(and I believe Doldol). Fairly certain they can now, but now no one wants to join the development team neither are active.
From being Staff, it's MUCH harder to setup something that you have little to no knowledge about. No one on Staff except for Doldol
(i would say Yiggles but he's more IT) has a discernible amount of knowledge of
howtosetupaserver.jpgtl;dr it takes motivation, time, cooperation, knowledge, and communication
(oh, and members) to which we lack