JB Rule clarification out of cell freeze

Mr. Simplistic · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2018 2:23 pm

Yiggles Moto wrote:

North wrote:

Sugoni wrote:

Mr. Simplistic wrote:

dj7joke wrote:

Matt said it himself. “Nothing is implied unless it says it in the rules”.

Wernt you the one who enforces killing t's who enter armory as an implied rule? Just seems weird that you have a different stance here.

but isnt entering armory as a T considered rebelling?

Just what I was gonna say.

I mean - Where is this stated? While I agree it probably could/should be a thing I don't see anything (at the moment) that does cover this.

I mean there either are or are not implied rules, cant have it both ways.(he said knowing full well they would enforce it both ways...)

Needy · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2018 2:46 pm

Yiggles Moto wrote:

I mean - Where is this stated? While I agree it probably could/should be a thing I don't see anything (at the moment) that does cover this.

It's not stated anywhere, it's more that some players consider armory to be a secret. Where if that's the case then any T trying to access a secret is rebelling and is KOS but I'm on either page.

We can always change it to "access a secret / armory" or "where T's are not permitted" (but that's pretty vague) but at the moment it all comes down to whether you'd consider armory to be a secret or not.

Link · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2018 2:47 pm

Mr. Simplistic wrote:

Yiggles Moto wrote:

North wrote:

Sugoni wrote:

Mr. Simplistic wrote:

dj7joke wrote:

Matt said it himself. “Nothing is implied unless it says it in the rules”.

Wernt you the one who enforces killing t's who enter armory as an implied rule? Just seems weird that you have a different stance here.

but isnt entering armory as a T considered rebelling?

Just what I was gonna say.

I mean - Where is this stated? While I agree it probably could/should be a thing I don't see anything (at the moment) that does cover this.

I mean there either are or are not implied rules, cant have it both ways.(he said knowing full well they would enforce it both ways...)

Smh off topic people lol. It’s not stated so it’s not rebelling. Unlike the breaking vent rule which is automatically rebelling.

Anyways let’s stay on topic with what TittySprinkles started.

My view is that if it’s not stated or clarified then they can jump out and freeze. If you said one step out only then kill them. Just don’t be an asshole if people go a little further so they’re not blocking.

Needy · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2018 2:52 pm

Link wrote:

My view is that if it’s not stated or clarified then they can jump out and freeze. If you said one step out only then kill them. Just don’t be an asshole if people go a little further so they’re not blocking.

that ain't what the topic is about, that's what the thread Yiggles linked is about but not this topic

Terminator · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2018 2:56 pm

as i see it:
if cells are opened and u only said "1 step out and freeze", all the people that were already out of cells can just run around.
its still the same as before i believe, nothing changed since then.
if u want ppl out of theire cells to freeze say "out of cells freeze". if they are in theire cell u can just give normal orders like "step out and freeze".
for the rest it is basicaly as in the link: in cell when "out of cells frozen" they can move in cells or jump out and insta freeze when they get out. if out of cell they need to freeze.

Needy · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2018 3:00 pm

TITTYSPRINKLES. wrote:

That's close, someone in that post is referencing the post I speak of the one where kharn chimes in.

Basically im asking is saying "one step out and freeze" the same as saying "out of cell freeze"

Here you go;

Kharn wrote:

Do you understand that any order given by the warden applies to every single T? In cell or outside cell, it makes no matter. You should have just frozen in place as soon as you heard the first order.

It may not be the post you're referencing but regardless, simple as said, every order applies every T. In cell or not.

Uchies · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2018 3:08 pm

For take a step out and freeze:

Needy wrote:

allows Ts to say [i]"well i was already out of my cell so i dont gotta freeze"

That's how it's currently being played on the server. Most people have learned to just say "out of cell freeze" at the beginning of the round, then give the step-out-and-freeze order while opening the cells.

Yiggles Moto · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2018 3:17 pm

Needy wrote:

TITTYSPRINKLES. wrote:

That's close, someone in that post is referencing the post I speak of the one where kharn chimes in.

Basically im asking is saying "one step out and freeze" the same as saying "out of cell freeze"

Here you go;

Kharn wrote:

Do you understand that any order given by the warden applies to every single T? In cell or outside cell, it makes no matter. You should have just frozen in place as soon as you heard the first order.

It may not be the post you're referencing but regardless, simple as said, every order applies every T. In cell or not.

Link · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2018 4:09 pm

Needy wrote:

Link wrote:

My view is that if it’s not stated or clarified then they can jump out and freeze. If you said one step out only then kill them. Just don’t be an asshole if people go a little further so they’re not blocking.

that ain't what the topic is about, that's what the thread Yiggles linked is about but not this topic

Did you read his main post? Because I read it and It talks about how somebody said it’s implied that “out of cell freeze” and “one step out and freeze” mean the same thing. Which they are not the same at all.

Needy you seem to argue a lot lately as if everything is an issue.

Needy · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2018 4:17 pm

Link wrote:

Needy wrote:

Link wrote:

My view is that if it’s not stated or clarified then they can jump out and freeze. If you said one step out only then kill them. Just don’t be an asshole if people go a little further so they’re not blocking.

that ain't what the topic is about, that's what the thread Yiggles linked is about but not this topic

Did you read his main post? Because I read it and It talks about how somebody said it’s implied that “out of cell freeze” and “one step out and freeze” mean the same thing. Which they are not the same at all.

Believe he was referring to whether they were the same in terms of whether it still applies to you if you're already out of your cell or not.

Quote:

For instance if you said "Take a step out of your cell and freeze" and they were already out of their cell they used to be able to ignore you and do what you want because you didnt say "OUT OF CELL freeze".

Not the (ninja)jumping aspect

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