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Needy wrote:
Oh just wanna add, Dyno, again think I said it quite a few times in this and maybe a few other threads. No one is out to get you, at least I haven't seen it. But being that you're an Advisor it may be more the fact that they / members expect more out of you which I can particularly agree with being that you DO represent EGN. But hey m8 "I can promise you i've heard EVERY SINGLE STAFF MEMBER current and past (since i've been here) use that word, or other similar in teamspeak" aHEM may wanna lowkey edit that or you gunna piss sum ppl off
That's literally the truth, and i'm saying (SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE) why are we trying to censor shit now, when people are complaining about censorship.
The people who are saying it, and are calling me out on this instant specifically have used the word themselves and are hypocritical about it. Sure I use it more then once, but i'm trying too make a point here.
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Needy wrote:
Let's see if I can break this down.
So, the N word is one of the most, and well probably the most controverted claims / words in English language and won't change from that stance. You can't compare that to other words like faggot, cunt, or retard. But regardless, it's has definitely been reclaimed from when it was originated or whatever you'd say, but the connotation to the word is solely negative in every aspect. Any attempt to re-appropriate the word has done nothing but failed and created ignorance, resentment and a double standard as to who is allowed to say it, when it really should be used, and how it should be used. You can relate it to calling someone a kike, boong, eskimo, and all the other ethnic / racial slurs you'd considered to be but nothing has really had an impact like the N word, per se. There's no colloquial notation to it. If you evaluate the "degree of offensiveness" by the context in which it's used in that's just going to increases the terms "smart ass" and "troll" to the server.
Words like faggot, other etc. aren't nearly as alike to the n word neither would I consider them to be so. There's definitely a wide dissimilarity between the words nig and fag, and yea, what it comes down to is say, in that particular community (i.e EGN in this case) what / how is ____ considered to be offensive, so on, and so on. You'll see that the n word probably takes the poll. Doesn't mean you shouldn't take action against words like faggot, or cunt, if it's directed to anyone or if it's clearly used to intently remark other players on the server then take apt. action. Just to note, we still have a "Don't discriminate" rule.
Oh also, don't compare this to "you being racist" if you say it because you aren't. It's just a negative word of expression that no one wants to hear.
To be honest, i think claiming any word to be considered offensive is just deceptive, but in terms of a community like this, it's appropriate to just leave it out unless you wanna deal with steves.
You've made one incredibly big mistake here Needy, you've unncessarily generalised. Different cultures have different views when it comes to usage of the same word or phrases, so speaking as if though the North American connotation of the word is the "end all be all" of the word's connotation is simply false.
Sure, on a server with mostly americans it's natural the general view towards the word is what it is, but culture clashes may/will happen and should be treated as such. nobody that I know for example will call me a racist for usage of the word "nigger" unless specifically used in a racist manner, as it is not automatically considered as such where I live. Furthermore, the same (based on what I have learned) can be said for Oceania.
Enough...Read the damn original post and stay on topic. We're done talking about Dyno, we're done talking about what happened, and we're done talking about the complaint. Just because Kharn hasn't replied doesn't mean he won't. There's far more to come of this and nothing helps if the rest of you are at each other throats because of it. Move on and game or something. Come Saturday to talk about that shit, but don't do it here. Don't make any other threads, don't make any more replies about it. You've been warned, because I will ban you.
I'm not going to change my views on this, and i'm not trying to call people out, it's a word,
Dyno wrote:
I can promise you i've heard EVERY SINGLE STAFF MEMBER current and past (since i've been here) use that word, or other similar in teamspeak.
Dyno wrote:
and i'm not trying to call people out
Anyways, I do agree. The clan has changed a bit but I dont know entirely too much about the current state of the clan to give a full opinion about how I feel. Pro Hop, you've done things in the past that have gotten you banned, have caused issues with staff, have had things happen to you that made you hide who you were, etc. Im sure things like that have subsided, so maybe thats a good thing? Im sure your experience now couldn't be as bad as what you went through when you joined the clan to when you left the last time.
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Dyno wrote:
Calling out every little thing that people have said personally, or calling out a collective group, big difference there GoldGames
You’re still calling people out, is what you basically just said. Anyways, I don’t want to get off topic. So this conversation ends here.
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hate speech "speech that is intended to intimidate a person because of some trait"
Dyno: "Oh really? You're going to threaten me with screenshotting me attempting to fix the server? Here, screenshot me saying this word in quotations instead."
obvious hate speech, guys.
... some of you guys have really shown your true colors, your true motives, in the past few days.
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