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BriBee · **Posted:** Tue May 22, 2018 5:05 pm

Mr. Simplistic wrote:

BriBee wrote:

Shadow censorship? You and THREE other people (not just you, imagine that) got comments deleted because you essentially began a rumor that would not have been good for EgN. Stop acting like you're all innocent and staff+ are just picking on you.

Instead of actually coming to any staff that were on when the comment got deleted to find out why, you bitched. Literally all you had to do was get on teamspeak and talk to whoever was on to find out and instead we got this:

Quote:

Mr. Simplistic « Tue May 22, 2018 7:50 am » Seems legit
Mr. Simplistic « Tue May 22, 2018 7:50 am » Well then.... looks like i cant even say i think something is gonna happen without being shadow cencored...

^ You know what you said and you knew what effect it would have on the forums and on anyone who read it. And if I remember correctly you've done the same thing before with severe consequences. You can have your speech and what not but when you try to further cause problems during a time where there is already issues being dealt with.... Of course your comment is gonna get deleted. Stop trying to host a pity party like you did nothing wrong and are just being picked on.

Its not a rumor its a belief, and i dont think pretending its not there will help, rather i think it will do even more harm to ignore it again. Your a great example of my point, you have been talking to only people you agree with for so long that you are openly hostile to other peoples point of view, thats exactly what im trying to avoid. This is a community i care about, you can accuse me of trying to sabotage the clan, tell me i dont matter here, that i've never done anything for the clan, am just a troll here to make people angry, and that the clan is better off without me. It won't be the first or last time someone has accused me of those thing but it will not stop me from continuing to always push for what i think will help the clan i've been a part of for years succeeding the long run.

I never once said i was a victim or was being treated unfairly. I am saying that i do not like the censorship tactics and think they have and will continue to hurt egn as a whole. As i stated i have No problems talking to staff+ but i find it difficult to communicate ideas about egn with other members to try and understandtheir point of view as well as communicate my own.

How will i know what problems you have with discussions, what there is to lose, what the is to gain, and how other people feel about it, if the discussion never happens in the first place?

All i ask is to be treated as if i am acting in good faith rather than trying to be a troll or shitposter. It's the same courtesy i extend to you and think it should be a given in any discussion unless given reason to believe otherwise.

The thing is though is you have given many many reasons for everyone to believe you have less than good intentions. Im not saying you're always a troll and I've never said you haven't done anything for the clan. What I am saying is that going around telling everyone "ohh yah we're gonna break apart just like we did last time" is not how you should go about things. No one is trying to pretend like its not a possibility which hell at some point it could be. But as of right now everyone is doing their best to try and keep everything together. Adding more bumps into an already bump road does nothing but cause more pain and grief.

You've been a part of it for you years yes I get that. But you would rather have things the way they were then instead of trying to move forward the way they are now. You've told me so yourself. I talk to everyone in this community, its why I am where I am. I talk to staff quite often about issues everyone has and ways to try and fix them. I don't just blindly follow whoever I think has the prettiest point of view. I may not have been in this clan as long as you have but that does not mean on any terms that I care any less about it. This clan and all the friends I've made are the reason I still am alive to be honest. So dont try and act like I or anyone who doesnt have your view dont care.

You don't want to be treated like a troll or shitposter? Stop constantly being one. I think I've seen you be serious maybe twice in the past 10 months and thats it. You want respect you have to earn it. I understand being upset about your comment getting deleted. But you know who to go to about it. You know who can help and who can explain. All this post did was to create unnecessary drama that you could have kept under wraps. Teamspeak or private chat would have gotten the same thing across and not made it look like all you wanted was for someone to validate the fact that you felt personally attacked.

Synthic · **Posted:** Tue May 22, 2018 5:10 pm

BriBee wrote:

Mr. Simplistic wrote:

BriBee wrote:

Shadow censorship? You and THREE other people (not just you, imagine that) got comments deleted because you essentially began a rumor that would not have been good for EgN. Stop acting like you're all innocent and staff+ are just picking on you.

Instead of actually coming to any staff that were on when the comment got deleted to find out why, you bitched. Literally all you had to do was get on teamspeak and talk to whoever was on to find out and instead we got this:

Quote:

Mr. Simplistic « Tue May 22, 2018 7:50 am » Seems legit
Mr. Simplistic « Tue May 22, 2018 7:50 am » Well then.... looks like i cant even say i think something is gonna happen without being shadow cencored...

^ You know what you said and you knew what effect it would have on the forums and on anyone who read it. And if I remember correctly you've done the same thing before with severe consequences. You can have your speech and what not but when you try to further cause problems during a time where there is already issues being dealt with.... Of course your comment is gonna get deleted. Stop trying to host a pity party like you did nothing wrong and are just being picked on.

Its not a rumor its a belief, and i dont think pretending its not there will help, rather i think it will do even more harm to ignore it again. Your a great example of my point, you have been talking to only people you agree with for so long that you are openly hostile to other peoples point of view, thats exactly what im trying to avoid. This is a community i care about, you can accuse me of trying to sabotage the clan, tell me i dont matter here, that i've never done anything for the clan, am just a troll here to make people angry, and that the clan is better off without me. It won't be the first or last time someone has accused me of those thing but it will not stop me from continuing to always push for what i think will help the clan i've been a part of for years succeeding the long run.

I never once said i was a victim or was being treated unfairly. I am saying that i do not like the censorship tactics and think they have and will continue to hurt egn as a whole. As i stated i have No problems talking to staff+ but i find it difficult to communicate ideas about egn with other members to try and understandtheir point of view as well as communicate my own.

How will i know what problems you have with discussions, what there is to lose, what the is to gain, and how other people feel about it, if the discussion never happens in the first place?

All i ask is to be treated as if i am acting in good faith rather than trying to be a troll or shitposter. It's the same courtesy i extend to you and think it should be a given in any discussion unless given reason to believe otherwise.

The thing is though is you have given many many reasons for everyone to believe you have less than good intentions. Im not saying you're always a troll and I've never said you haven't done anything for the clan. What I am saying is that going around telling everyone "ohh yah we're gonna break apart just like we did last time" is not how you should go about things. No one is trying to pretend like its not a possibility which hell at some point it could be. But as of right now everyone is doing their best to try and keep everything together. Adding more bumps into an already bump road does nothing but cause more pain and grief.

You've been a part of it for you years yes I get that. But you would rather have things the way they were then instead of trying to move forward the way they are now. You've told me so yourself. I talk to everyone in this community, its why I am where I am. I talk to staff quite often about issues everyone has and ways to try and fix them. I don't just blindly follow whoever I think has the prettiest point of view. I may not have been in this clan as long as you have but that does not mean on any terms that I care any less about it. This clan and all the friends I've made are the reason I still am alive to be honest. So dont try and act like I or anyone who doesnt have your view dont care.

You don't want to be treated like a troll or shitposter? Stop constantly being one. I think I've seen you be serious maybe twice in the past 10 months and thats it. You want respect you have to earn it. I understand being upset about your comment getting deleted. But you know who to go to about it. You know who can help and who can explain. All this post did was to create unnecessary drama that you could have kept under wraps. Teamspeak or private chat would have gotten the same thing across and not made it look like all you wanted was for someone to validate the fact that you felt personally attacked.

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BriBee · **Posted:** Tue May 22, 2018 5:17 pm

Synthic wrote:

BriBee wrote:

Mr. Simplistic wrote:

BriBee wrote:

Shadow censorship? You and THREE other people (not just you, imagine that) got comments deleted because you essentially began a rumor that would not have been good for EgN. Stop acting like you're all innocent and staff+ are just picking on you.

Instead of actually coming to any staff that were on when the comment got deleted to find out why, you bitched. Literally all you had to do was get on teamspeak and talk to whoever was on to find out and instead we got this:

Quote:

Mr. Simplistic « Tue May 22, 2018 7:50 am » Seems legit
Mr. Simplistic « Tue May 22, 2018 7:50 am » Well then.... looks like i cant even say i think something is gonna happen without being shadow cencored...

^ You know what you said and you knew what effect it would have on the forums and on anyone who read it. And if I remember correctly you've done the same thing before with severe consequences. You can have your speech and what not but when you try to further cause problems during a time where there is already issues being dealt with.... Of course your comment is gonna get deleted. Stop trying to host a pity party like you did nothing wrong and are just being picked on.

Its not a rumor its a belief, and i dont think pretending its not there will help, rather i think it will do even more harm to ignore it again. Your a great example of my point, you have been talking to only people you agree with for so long that you are openly hostile to other peoples point of view, thats exactly what im trying to avoid. This is a community i care about, you can accuse me of trying to sabotage the clan, tell me i dont matter here, that i've never done anything for the clan, am just a troll here to make people angry, and that the clan is better off without me. It won't be the first or last time someone has accused me of those thing but it will not stop me from continuing to always push for what i think will help the clan i've been a part of for years succeeding the long run.

I never once said i was a victim or was being treated unfairly. I am saying that i do not like the censorship tactics and think they have and will continue to hurt egn as a whole. As i stated i have No problems talking to staff+ but i find it difficult to communicate ideas about egn with other members to try and understandtheir point of view as well as communicate my own.

How will i know what problems you have with discussions, what there is to lose, what the is to gain, and how other people feel about it, if the discussion never happens in the first place?

All i ask is to be treated as if i am acting in good faith rather than trying to be a troll or shitposter. It's the same courtesy i extend to you and think it should be a given in any discussion unless given reason to believe otherwise.

The thing is though is you have given many many reasons for everyone to believe you have less than good intentions. Im not saying you're always a troll and I've never said you haven't done anything for the clan. What I am saying is that going around telling everyone "ohh yah we're gonna break apart just like we did last time" is not how you should go about things. No one is trying to pretend like its not a possibility which hell at some point it could be. But as of right now everyone is doing their best to try and keep everything together. Adding more bumps into an already bump road does nothing but cause more pain and grief.

You've been a part of it for you years yes I get that. But you would rather have things the way they were then instead of trying to move forward the way they are now. You've told me so yourself. I talk to everyone in this community, its why I am where I am. I talk to staff quite often about issues everyone has and ways to try and fix them. I don't just blindly follow whoever I think has the prettiest point of view. I may not have been in this clan as long as you have but that does not mean on any terms that I care any less about it. This clan and all the friends I've made are the reason I still am alive to be honest. So dont try and act like I or anyone who doesnt have your view dont care.

You don't want to be treated like a troll or shitposter? Stop constantly being one. I think I've seen you be serious maybe twice in the past 10 months and thats it. You want respect you have to earn it. I understand being upset about your comment getting deleted. But you know who to go to about it. You know who can help and who can explain. All this post did was to create unnecessary drama that you could have kept under wraps. Teamspeak or private chat would have gotten the same thing across and not made it look like all you wanted was for someone to validate the fact that you felt personally attacked.

why pink text

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koolaid · **Posted:** Tue May 22, 2018 5:34 pm

EgN isn't going anywhere. Stop being dramatic ffs it's hard enough dodging all the feelings flying around.

Young Lean · **Posted:** Tue May 22, 2018 6:41 pm

Koolaid, if you don't take this discussion seriously why not just stay out of it?

Silently censoring people with issues does not make the problem go away, just temporarily covers it and usually pisses people off.
Not to mention, 2 others were arguing about the same shit excessively and nothing happened to them.

Some of you look painfully dense when you try to debate, it's a bummer I can't call you out without being forum banned.

AJtheGreyBeard025 · **Posted:** Tue May 22, 2018 6:55 pm

Young Lean wrote:

Koolaid, if you don't take this discussion seriously why not just stay out of it?

Silently censoring people with issues does not make the problem go away, just temporarily covers it and usually pisses people off.
Not to mention, 2 others were arguing about the same shit excessively and nothing happened to them.

Some of you look painfully dense when you try to debate, it's a bummer I can't call you out without being forum banned.

Complains about censorship and yet makes a comment censoring another.......

Yep, totally not hypocrisy....seems legit!

Young Lean · **Posted:** Tue May 22, 2018 6:58 pm

ajescorcia025 wrote:

Young Lean wrote:

Koolaid, if you don't take this discussion seriously why not just stay out of it?

Silently censoring people with issues does not make the problem go away, just temporarily covers it and usually pisses people off.
Not to mention, 2 others were arguing about the same shit excessively and nothing happened to them.

Some of you look painfully dense when you try to debate, it's a bummer I can't call you out without being forum banned.

Complains about censorship and yet makes a comment censoring another.......

Yep, totally not hypocrisy....seems legit!

Can't tell if that's bait or you're actually an autist.

Tricky · **Posted:** Tue May 22, 2018 7:00 pm

Ladies ladies if you want to make a proposal and want shit to actually change how bout you stick to the thread and stop ranting at each other?

BriBee · **Posted:** Tue May 22, 2018 7:04 pm

Young Lean wrote:

ajescorcia025 wrote:

Young Lean wrote:

Koolaid, if you don't take this discussion seriously why not just stay out of it?

Silently censoring people with issues does not make the problem go away, just temporarily covers it and usually pisses people off.
Not to mention, 2 others were arguing about the same shit excessively and nothing happened to them.

Some of you look painfully dense when you try to debate, it's a bummer I can't call you out without being forum banned.

Complains about censorship and yet makes a comment censoring another.......

Yep, totally not hypocrisy....seems legit!

Can't tell if that's bait or you're actually an autist.

How about we dont use mental illnesses as an insult. That'd be great.

AJtheGreyBeard025 · **Posted:** Tue May 22, 2018 7:09 pm

Young Lean wrote:

ajescorcia025 wrote:

Young Lean wrote:

Koolaid, if you don't take this discussion seriously why not just stay out of it?

Silently censoring people with issues does not make the problem go away, just temporarily covers it and usually pisses people off.
Not to mention, 2 others were arguing about the same shit excessively and nothing happened to them.

Some of you look painfully dense when you try to debate, it's a bummer I can't call you out without being forum banned.

Complains about censorship and yet makes a comment censoring another.......

Yep, totally not hypocrisy....seems legit!

Can't tell if that's bait or you're actually an autist.

Nice try but not really. Its commentary on your position or rather lack of one. You can't take the high horse if you don't like what Koolaid has to say. I thought your whole issue was about not letting others say what they have to say no matter what? But yet you act differently.....

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