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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:27 pm 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:33 pm 
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hard drug legalization,


I would support this.

Too bad the prisons will pay down to the last dollar they have to make sure it doesn’t happen. *shrugs*


Personally I prefer decriminalization of the use of hard drugs more-so than a legalization. I still believe selling and producing hard drugs should be punishable (as I believe the use of hard drugs is a detriment to society), but still believe the individual people who have fallen into addiction should not further be punished for their mistakes/problems, but instead aided out of their situation.

Keep in mind that depending on your definition of it, "hard drugs" can include alcohol as well as fairly commonly used drugs for medicational purposes. I am primarily talking about the recreational drugs discluding alcohol.


The prisons make all their money off drug users rather than drug dealers, so don’t expect either of these options being viable law-wise in the distant future.


Yeah, gotta say I heavily disagree with how lobbying works/is allowed in the US largely because of this. Feels to me like a system that favours the politicians and corporations more than your average american, for reasons such as this specific one.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 5:32 pm 
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Yeah, gotta say I heavily disagree with how lobbying works/is allowed in the US largely because of this. Feels to me like a system that favours the politicians and corporations more than your average american, for reasons such as this specific one.

Corporate lobbying is the same... for instance, the anti-cigarette companies are funded by the marijuana industry and pharmaceutical companies. Who would plainly take health advice from billion-dollar drug peddlers?

“1 person, one vote” is a façade in America, “one dollar, one vote” is more accurate. Don’t expect American laws that favor morality over market interest ever.
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The idea of free-speech specifically being in place to protect unpopular opinions (why would you need a protection for speech that everyone agrees with?) vs. "hate speech" (defined as unpopular or "ugly" speech with no direct call to violence) not being protected under the first amendment.

That seems to be a heated topic that many people get angry about, and therefore controversial.


How i see it, freedom of speech doesnt mean freedom from consequence. You can say whatever you want but be prepared for backlash.

that's the entire point, freedom of speech is just extended freedom of thought. In order to think freely you need to risk being offensive.
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Synthic wrote:
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The idea of free-speech specifically being in place to protect unpopular opinions (why would you need a protection for speech that everyone agrees with?) vs. "hate speech" (defined as unpopular or "ugly" speech with no direct call to violence) not being protected under the first amendment.

That seems to be a heated topic that many people get angry about, and therefore controversial.


How i see it, freedom of speech doesnt mean freedom from consequence. You can say whatever you want but be prepared for backlash.

that's the entire point, freedom of speech is just extended freedom of thought. In order to think freely you need to risk being offensive.


Yeah but some people believe they can say whayever they want and haveno repercussions as they use freedom if speech as an excuse. There is a difference between being opinionated and being offensive. Those who lean on the offensive side often feel others are attacking them and think they shouldnt be punished because of freedom of speech. EI The Westboro Baptist Church.They are extremely offensive with their bigotry and often find themselves being verbally criticized yet often play as the victim and proclaim they are doing “God’s work” in situations.


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McNugget wrote:
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The idea of free-speech specifically being in place to protect unpopular opinions (why would you need a protection for speech that everyone agrees with?) vs. "hate speech" (defined as unpopular or "ugly" speech with no direct call to violence) not being protected under the first amendment.

That seems to be a heated topic that many people get angry about, and therefore controversial.


How i see it, freedom of speech doesnt mean freedom from consequence. You can say whatever you want but be prepared for backlash.

that's the entire point, freedom of speech is just extended freedom of thought. In order to think freely you need to risk being offensive.


Yeah but some people believe they can say whayever they want and haveno repercussions as they use freedom if speech as an excuse. There is a difference between being opinionated and being offensive. Those who lean on the offensive side often feel others are attacking them and think they shouldnt be punished because of freedom of speech. EI The Westboro Baptist Church.They are extremely offensive with their bigotry and often find themselves being verbally criticized yet often play as the victim and proclaim they are doing “God’s work” in situations.

ok and who cares? the only speech that should be "restricted" are threats. hate speech is free speech, and offensive speech is free speech. I am not responsible for how someone interprets or reacts to what I say.
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ok and who cares? the only speech that should be "restricted" are threats. hate speech is free speech, and offensive speech is free speech. I am not responsible for how someone interprets or reacts to what I say.

It's nice to see my point being proven, that this is a topic emphatically debated.

Not to derail, but idiots like the Westboro Church need to have freedom of speech so that everyone can see how stupid they are. We should listen to what everyone has to say, no matter how outlandish, and morally advance as individuals from there. The only speech that is truly feared, is that which is powerful and can change perceptions.
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