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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:37 pm 
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How would you respond if a CT were to say "crouch to my spray" and freeze. Would you take that as a remain crouched? Or able to freely uncrouch being given the order "freeze".

Would you also take that as a "never said uncrouch"?

If you think of it each round is really just one big Simon Says game but without the "Simon"


"Crouch to my spray" not "crouch to my spray and remain crouched" so they crouch there, then they can uncrouch, as they have completed the first part of the order

My point exactly. The OP has written "simon says crouch & continue to do 360s" not remain crouched, followed by "simon says freeze".

By this statement, you would be allowed to freely uncrouch unless ordered to remain crouched.

"Simon says crouch and remained crouched" "Simon says freeze" can't move along w x y z axis though would have to remain crouched by Terminators logic which is practicable
"Simon says crouch" would have to remain crouched "Simon says freeze" able to freely uncrouch as followed by the previous statement
"Simon says continue jumping" "Simon says freeze" T's would have to stop jumping because you can't move from z to y
"Simon says do 360s" "Simon says freeze" must continue to do 360s as by definition freeze only affects w x y z

What it seems to come down to is well first & foremost, specify if you want T's to remain crouched or not. And second off, play by definition "you may not move along the x, y or z axis (crouch is exempt)" without adding any variations of "this means I can now use my flashlight, knife my knife, so on"



This sound pretty logical to me.
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Needy wrote:
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How would you respond if a CT were to say "crouch to my spray" and freeze. Would you take that as a remain crouched? Or able to freely uncrouch being given the order "freeze".

Would you also take that as a "never said uncrouch"?

If you think of it each round is really just one big Simon Says game but without the "Simon"


"Crouch to my spray" not "crouch to my spray and remain crouched" so they crouch there, then they can uncrouch, as they have completed the first part of the order

My point exactly. The OP has written "simon says crouch & continue to do 360s" not remain crouched, followed by "simon says freeze".

By this statement, you would be allowed to freely uncrouch unless ordered to remain crouched.

"Simon says crouch and remained crouched" "Simon says freeze" can't move along w x y z axis though would have to remain crouched by Terminators logic which is practicable
"Simon says crouch" would have to remain crouched "Simon says freeze" able to freely uncrouch as followed by the previous statement
"Simon says continue jumping" "Simon says freeze" T's would have to stop jumping because you can't move from z to y
"Simon says do 360s" "Simon says freeze" must continue to do 360s as by definition freeze only affects w x y z

Would this work as a middle ground?


i see what u are working to
but isn't it that if they say "simon says do 360's" and then "simon says freeze" overwrite the 360 order?
after all simon never stated to do it at all times so by this they have a choice to do so, no?
i mean it would make more sence to me atleast

if they say "do so at all times" or "keep doing this all the time"
the freeze order can't touch these orders (jumping exempt, u would have to stop as freeze restricts it)

and if they just say "crouch" and "do 360's" and then "freeze"
that they have a choice to do so?
would make more sence and then have a a line wich would look like the line we curren tly have in regular orders

"crouch to my spray and freeze"
meaning u crouch to the spray and u can stand up when u get there

"crouch and remain crouching" or "crouch at all times" folowed by "go to my spray and freeze"
in wich they should still be crouching after arriving at the spray?
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i see what u are working to
but isn't it that if they say "simon says do 360's" and then "simon says freeze" overwrite the 360 order?
after all simon never stated to do it at all times so by this they have a choice to do so, no?
i mean it would make more sence to me atleast

if they say "do so at all times" or "keep doing this all the time"
the freeze order can't touch these orders (jumping exempt, u would have to stop as freeze restricts it)

Edited. It's what I was regarding to. So, again, like said before warden should specify whether they want T's to remain crouched / continue jumping / doing 360's

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and if they just say "crouch" and "do 360's" and then "freeze"
that they have a choice to do so?
would make more sence and then have a a line wich would look like the line we curren tly have in regular orders

Not sure what you mean here? Say if they say crouch & do 360s then freeze? You'd be allowed to uncrouch & well stop doing 360s.

Would just like to note:
If simon says "all T's crouch" you would remain crouched as warden never specified for you to "uncrouch" whereas if simon were to say "all T's crouch" "freeze" then you'd remain crouched until simon says "all T's freeze". After told to freeze you'd be allowed to uncrouch from that position. Same goes for 360s, "all T's do 360s" that S basically states that you should be continuously doing 360s but once simon says "freeze" then you'd be allowed to stop, so forth, as simon never said "at all times". If you take it from the outlook of "crouch" or "remained crouched" then you can do the same for "do 360s" along with "do 360s at all times". Any of this make sense? Or is this making it more complicated than it seems?

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"crouch to my spray and freeze"
meaning u crouch to the spray and u can stand up when u get there

"crouch and remain crouching" or "crouch at all times" folowed by "go to my spray and freeze"
in wich they should still be crouching after arriving at the spray?
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I meant that if Simon doesn't say keep doing this order or do it at all times and then Simon says freeze that they didn't have to keep crouching or 360 . But u explained it alrdy now
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ajescorcia025 wrote:
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I mean a general response to alot of the viewpoints shared in this thread: Isn't the point of simon says to try and catch people out in the first place?


Completely true, however the point of this thread is to clarify something which really can be simple but the way its being used in my opinion contradicts definitions of certain actions. Like when the order "freeze" is given you can make any wasd movements but can crouch, look around, flash your flashlight. When the order to "crouch" is given then you are to be crouched until the warden makes a new order.

Now lets add simon says to the mix. Simon tells you to do something until he says otherwise or you die. Now simon says jump. You jump. Singular jump since Simon never said to keep jumping or said jumps. Now simon says crouch. You stayed crouch, then simon says do 360s and you do 360s.

Now on top of ALL of what simon said previously, simon says FREEZE. Clearly on freeze you can't be jumping anymore even though simon never said to stop jumping. And by definition of how "Freeze" is used you CAN be crouched but do NOT have to be crouched as freeze limits "WASD" movements. It also means you can choose to look where you want, use your knife, or even use your flashlight. Now you get killed because you uncrouched because simon says freeze....to me it does not logically follow that you can kill a T for not doing ANY of the prior simon says orders since "freeze" means what it means.

Either we change the definition of freeze to clear specificity or make this clear.


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Actually.

If you said “crouch to my spray and freeze each time I spray”, the Ts would crouch to each spray and then stop. Do you think they would crouch to the first spray and rush to every spray after that? No... because they were given an order to crouch to each spray and freezing on each spray would just mean not moving along the axis or jumping.

Essentialy a perpetual order with no subsequent order altering otherwise.
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