OhhDandy wrote:
As I said before, this is more than the interpretation of the order, it's also something to be looked at in terms of what staff are willing to punish for, as they have slain CT's who have killed ninja steppers.
What? Wouldn't that be as a result of the interpretation of the order...? Otherwise that would be because I just slay whoever I want whenever. Hell even if I did then idk why'd you link it to an order in the first place.
OhhDandy wrote:
Personally, and like many others, ONE action, in this case a jump from moving (in cell) to stationary (out of cell) is counted as one movement, just like a regular step, as it has a threshold distance to which can be achieved.
Usually you travel far further when jumping as people hold W for as long as they can. That's why "Ninja step" is even a thing -- more below.
OhhDandy wrote:
The way you're looking at it is, as soon as we leave our cell we are still physically moving as that is the nature of the jump and the curvature from point A to B is movement, but the way I see it is although that is the case, that movement is not controlled past the 'jump'.
This could further argue that any uncontrolled movement, such as picking up guns or models moving due to recognition is a liable reason to kill.
Idk why you say "The way iI look at it" considering I give 4 different possible scenarios, including one that reflects your point of view. I also fail to see how you can concede to my point of view, point out flaws in your own, yet still disagree? I don't understand your logic here, or what "movement is not controlled past the jump" is supposed to mean. Can you explain?
OhhDandy wrote:
When taking into consideration the rules and what is there, nothing is said about ninja stepping in whole. The only reason people would assume that it's not allowed on a defined order is because it's not said.
Seriously, ninja stepping isn't even a thing, js. The term wasn't even around not even a year ago. And if it's not said, why would they assume it's allowed? You said it's not in the rules, and nothing is implied. And if they assume that, then doesn't that make your own argument invalid?
OhhDandy wrote:
On undefined orders, much like "go to the box", when there are multiple boxes, the head room for other options is available and will likely be taken but then it's a matter of the loosely defined "don't be a smart ass" rule which negates any independent options which in essence probably aren't being a smart ass, so is the ninja step turning into a "smart ass" action when really all it is, is an edge to rebel if possible which if anything should be encouraged.
To continue from part 2 here -- "an edge to rebel" yes, that's exactly what it is. People ninja step to get an advantage. Obviously, as a guard, you don't want that. As I said in my previous reply, "Freeze means: do not move along the X, Y, Z axis of the game. Crouching is exempt." - If a CT gives an order to "freeze" then they are giving an order to restrict your ability to gain that rebellious advantage. Ideally, this order would warrant a limited movement out of your cell, not a jump as far as you can. I can almost guarantee a CT would kill a terrorist who ran half as far as a T could jump out.
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