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Young Lean
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 Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:16 am |
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My issue is as follows: Admins in JB so focused on being objective that their attitudes are off putting and sometimes feel toxic.
This issue has the affect of: Pissing off a lot of regulars and potentially driving them out of the server for good.
The people that must be
involved in fixing this problem are: admins / staff+
The solution i think would be best for everyone is: For administrators to try and be a bit more understanding and patient with situations, to generally understand that everyone in the server is equal, and most people dont need to be punished immediately for them to understand their wrong doings.
Everyone gets that a server has rules, but its very apparent when an admin isn't enjoying himself in the server and is only there to punish others.
The phrase "admin first, player second" while it is accurate, gives admins a sense that they can't just riff with others in the server, and it's clear when an admin is targeting specific people because they upset them previously.
All in all, I think admins shouldn't be so confrontational, we're all here to have fun, and the rules are only there to make sure nobody is ruining another players experience.
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SemiAutoNoob
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:53 am |
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Young Lean wrote: My issue is as follows: Admins in JB so focused on being objective that their attitudes are off putting and sometimes feel toxic.
This issue has the affect of: Pissing off a lot of regulars and potentially driving them out of the server for good.
The people that must be
involved in fixing this problem are: admins / staff+
The solution i think would be best for everyone is: For administrators to try and be a bit more understanding and patient with situations, to generally understand that everyone in the server is equal, and most people dont need to be punished immediately for them to understand their wrong doings.
Everyone gets that a server has rules, but its very apparent when an admin isn't enjoying himself in the server and is only there to punish others.
The phrase "admin first, player second" while it is accurate, gives admins a sense that they can't just riff with others in the server, and it's clear when an admin is targeting specific people because they upset them previously.
All in all, I think admins shouldn't be so confrontational, we're all here to have fun, and the rules are only there to make sure nobody is ruining another players experience. Your phrase is wrong. We are all players first admins second always been that way. |
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Young Lean
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:57 am |
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SemiAutoNoob wrote: Young Lean wrote: My issue is as follows: Admins in JB so focused on being objective that their attitudes are off putting and sometimes feel toxic.
This issue has the affect of: Pissing off a lot of regulars and potentially driving them out of the server for good.
The people that must be
involved in fixing this problem are: admins / staff+
The solution i think would be best for everyone is: For administrators to try and be a bit more understanding and patient with situations, to generally understand that everyone in the server is equal, and most people dont need to be punished immediately for them to understand their wrong doings.
Everyone gets that a server has rules, but its very apparent when an admin isn't enjoying himself in the server and is only there to punish others.
The phrase "admin first, player second" while it is accurate, gives admins a sense that they can't just riff with others in the server, and it's clear when an admin is targeting specific people because they upset them previously.
All in all, I think admins shouldn't be so confrontational, we're all here to have fun, and the rules are only there to make sure nobody is ruining another players experience. Your phrase is wrong. We are all players first admins second always been that way. I agree with that, sadly however I don't think that's what is expected of admins from higher ups. |
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SemiAutoNoob
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:05 am |
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Young Lean wrote: SemiAutoNoob wrote: Young Lean wrote: My issue is as follows: Admins in JB so focused on being objective that their attitudes are off putting and sometimes feel toxic.
This issue has the affect of: Pissing off a lot of regulars and potentially driving them out of the server for good.
The people that must be
involved in fixing this problem are: admins / staff+
The solution i think would be best for everyone is: For administrators to try and be a bit more understanding and patient with situations, to generally understand that everyone in the server is equal, and most people dont need to be punished immediately for them to understand their wrong doings.
Everyone gets that a server has rules, but its very apparent when an admin isn't enjoying himself in the server and is only there to punish others.
The phrase "admin first, player second" while it is accurate, gives admins a sense that they can't just riff with others in the server, and it's clear when an admin is targeting specific people because they upset them previously.
All in all, I think admins shouldn't be so confrontational, we're all here to have fun, and the rules are only there to make sure nobody is ruining another players experience. Your phrase is wrong. We are all players first admins second always been that way. I agree with that, sadly however I don't think that's what is expected of admins from higher ups. Kharn exact words player first admin second. Does it look like any of us are paid to admin. No we choose to do that for a better server. But I go on there to play and only to admin when needed. I don't doubt that some people perceive it that they are there to admin and control everything but that's not what they are expected to do. And if staff or whoever is telling them otherwise then maybe that's a discussion for staff to get on the correct page. You are correct through to many control freaks. People need to relax there is plenty of fun to have and expand on the point is to be different in the server and do different things but if you change the slightest aspect of gameplay everyone loses their minds. If your first order isn't step out afk freeze then your probably planning an mfk lol |
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Mr.GoldGames
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:06 am |
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SemiAutoNoob wrote: Young Lean wrote: SemiAutoNoob wrote: Young Lean wrote: My issue is as follows: Admins in JB so focused on being objective that their attitudes are off putting and sometimes feel toxic.
This issue has the affect of: Pissing off a lot of regulars and potentially driving them out of the server for good.
The people that must be
involved in fixing this problem are: admins / staff+
The solution i think would be best for everyone is: For administrators to try and be a bit more understanding and patient with situations, to generally understand that everyone in the server is equal, and most people dont need to be punished immediately for them to understand their wrong doings.
Everyone gets that a server has rules, but its very apparent when an admin isn't enjoying himself in the server and is only there to punish others.
The phrase "admin first, player second" while it is accurate, gives admins a sense that they can't just riff with others in the server, and it's clear when an admin is targeting specific people because they upset them previously.
All in all, I think admins shouldn't be so confrontational, we're all here to have fun, and the rules are only there to make sure nobody is ruining another players experience. Your phrase is wrong. We are all players first admins second always been that way. I agree with that, sadly however I don't think that's what is expected of admins from higher ups. Kharn exact words player first admin second. Does it look like any of us are paid to admin. No we choose to do that for a better server. But I go on there to play and only to admin when needed. I don't doubt that some people perceive it that they are there to admin and control everything but that's not what they are expected to do. And if staff or whoever is telling them otherwise then maybe that's a discussion for staff to get on the correct page. You are correct through to many control freaks. People need to relax there is plenty of fun to have and expand on the point is to be different in the server and do different things but if you change the slightest aspect of gameplay everyone loses their minds. If your first order isn't step out afk freeze then your probably planning an mfk lol |
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Bourne
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:58 am |
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Mr.GoldGames wrote: Link wrote:
Ash wrote: Lunk wrote: My issue is as follows: Admins constantly muting all dead,as well as unmuting themselves when they die.
This issue has the affect of: upsetting players who would like to chat reasonably with each other in an acceptable and entertaining manner.
The people that must be
involved in fixing this problem are: EgN Admins (indiglow, aversan and wossia especially)
The solution i think would be best for everyone is: To only mute individuals who talk over warden or mic spam. This should be done in the standard: warn>mute for a round>kick>ban. A good exception would be when all players are yelling at once, in which case admins should mute all, explain that anyone continuing will be punished, then unmute.
To expand on this, if any "group spam" happens after a warning then any individual involved in the group purposely doing this would be banned/kicked for spamming as well as disrupting the server. I believe everyone should be held responsible for their own actions when breaking the rules rather than punishing the whole server. I have found that respective responsible player enjoy this approach much more and disrespectful, disruptive player are taken off the server and stop causing other troubles as well.
I look forward to another response ash im glad to see you taking part in this discussion ^.^ (of course others are welcome to join in too) Also a possible solution, I actually kinda like this idea and I would like if we could put the "admin rulebook" to list it as quoted. Seems like a solid solution, maybe add that players should at max be banned 10 min for the first time of mic spamming.
Gonna just tack on some side notes to consider.. - players don't need to talk while dead - on wardays don't mute the dead there's really no reason - I suggest admins just mute all and keep themselves muted as well ( we have other ways to contact players. We don't need to be talking.) -If a higher rank mutes you then don't unmute yourself(I've warned before and so have Staff. If you wanna be an ass about it then it will end up a simple kick til you grasp the concept.) - it's ok to mute all dead because there's a reason for it. But don't sit there talking about whatever if your dead as well. Why should you be allowed if you won't allow others. At the end of the day don't get upset if you get muted while dead. You shouldn't be talking in the first place. I'm not trying to be a hypocrite because I do mute the dead and including myself all the time. I think there are times for being lenient on this like wardays wards and other similar events. This ^ Tbh there is rarely a good reason for a dead person to speak. it's just easier to mute them all, you really shouldn't be talking at all when you are dead. |
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MrGoldGames « Wed May 25, 2016 3:47 am » Im fucking done with people not taking this clan seriously. Honestly do what you were fuckign told to do, or dont leave. Its as simple as that. If you dont wanna fucking play by the rules and be a fucking douche canoe, then fucking go away. This clan is important to alot of people and they want to enjoy themselves on here. Good servers arent found easily on CSS anymore because its dying. So people look up to our clan and say, "Hey these guys are cool and help me keep playing CSS." So if you want to fuck with this clan, be fucking cancer to it, or just straight out bash the clan, GET THE FUCK OUT! No one gives a shit about you if you do that. No one fucking wants to see your dumbass on here again. Take your shit seriously, or fuck off you uncultured swines. Holy shit...
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Phillip
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:07 pm |
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Link wrote:
Ash wrote: Lunk wrote: My issue is as follows: Admins constantly muting all dead,as well as unmuting themselves when they die.
This issue has the affect of: upsetting players who would like to chat reasonably with each other in an acceptable and entertaining manner.
The people that must be
involved in fixing this problem are: EgN Admins (indiglow, aversan and wossia especially)
The solution i think would be best for everyone is: To only mute individuals who talk over warden or mic spam. This should be done in the standard: warn>mute for a round>kick>ban. A good exception would be when all players are yelling at once, in which case admins should mute all, explain that anyone continuing will be punished, then unmute.
To expand on this, if any "group spam" happens after a warning then any individual involved in the group purposely doing this would be banned/kicked for spamming as well as disrupting the server. I believe everyone should be held responsible for their own actions when breaking the rules rather than punishing the whole server. I have found that respective responsible player enjoy this approach much more and disrespectful, disruptive player are taken off the server and stop causing other troubles as well.
I look forward to another response ash im glad to see you taking part in this discussion ^.^ (of course others are welcome to join in too) Also a possible solution, I actually kinda like this idea and I would like if we could put the "admin rulebook" to list it as quoted. Seems like a solid solution, maybe add that players should at max be banned 10 min for the first time of mic spamming.
Gonna just tack on some side notes to consider.. - players don't need to talk while dead - on wardays don't mute the dead there's really no reason - I suggest admins just mute all and keep themselves muted as well ( we have other ways to contact players. We don't need to be talking.) -If a higher rank mutes you then don't unmute yourself(I've warned before and so have Staff. If you wanna be an ass about it then it will end up a simple kick til you grasp the concept.)
- it's ok to mute all dead because there's a reason for it. But don't sit there talking about whatever if your dead as well. Why should you be allowed if you won't allow others.At the end of the day don't get upset if you get muted while dead. You shouldn't be talking in the first place. I'm not trying to be a hypocrite because I do mute the dead and including myself all the time. I think there are times for being lenient on this like wardays wards and other similar events. I been trying to implement this method so much Major ? |
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Kharn
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 2:44 pm |
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Fixed the thread name.
Amazing that you all needed to have someone else make a thread for you to complain in, that you all couldn't just PM or make your own threads is beyond me.
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