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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:54 am 
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In the time I've been on this server the JB Order "Rush to my spray and freeze" has been bouncing back and forth on what it actually means. Is "Everytime I spray it" implied or not. First it wasnt, then it was, then wasn't again, and as of a week ago I'm being told it is again and there is literally nothing to back this up except word of mouth. Can we get something in ink here on the forums about what the actual deal is, and maybe even get it into the rules on the server as well (don't know if thats a PITA or not). It just seems to change too much and gets confusing when I'm not sure what to enforce.

Ex. "Rush to my spray and freeze" -> Ts run to spray, CT sprays again, Ts run to that spray. Ts get killed because "I didn't say every time I spray it".

Ex "Rush to my spray and freeze -> Ts run to spray, CT sprays again, Ts dont move. Ts get killed for Delaying because "Everytime I spray it is implied"


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I always thought u have to say follow cause nothing is implied other than detour or delay
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I always thought u have to say follow cause nothing is implied other than detour or delay

This.

Now my question is for "Rush and follow my spray," not implying freeze but if after they reach warden's spray, can they run off?
Then they are not following it?
But then jumping would be going farther away from the spray, so can I then shoot for jumping?
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SilverStevie wrote:
cnnalin wrote:
I always thought u have to say follow cause nothing is implied other than detour or delay

This.

Now my question is for "Rush and follow my spray," not implying freeze but if after they reach warden's spray, can they run off?
Then they are not following it?
But then jumping would be going farther away from the spray, so can I then shoot for jumping?


All very nice questions!
- Basically the answer to the first one is yes. They have completed the order and can run off your spray, but once you spray your spray again, they must run to your spray to complete the order.
- Technically they are, because they ran and followed your spray, got to your spray, then ran off because you didn't say freeze.
- If they jump over your spray, that could be considered a delay if you are an extreme nazi warden. They didn't take the fastest route to your spray, instead they skipped your spray entirely.

"Rush and freeze every time i spray it" is not implied. The first example would be true, however again, don't be a nazi warden.

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Only implied order is no delay and no detours nothing else is plied
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:23 am 
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Phillip wrote:
Only implied order is no delay and no detours nothing else is plied



Ok cool well that makes it easy


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Mr.GoldGames wrote:
SilverStevie wrote:
cnnalin wrote:
I always thought u have to say follow cause nothing is implied other than detour or delay

This.

Now my question is for "Rush and follow my spray," not implying freeze but if after they reach warden's spray, can they run off?
Then they are not following it?
But then jumping would be going farther away from the spray, so can I then shoot for jumping?


All very nice questions!
- Basically the answer to the first one is yes. They have completed the order and can run off your spray, but once you spray your spray again, they must run to your spray to complete the order.
- Technically they are, because they ran and followed your spray, got to your spray, then ran off because you didn't say freeze.
- If they jump over your spray, that could be considered a delay if you are an extreme nazi warden. They didn't take the fastest route to your spray, instead they skipped your spray entirely.

"Rush and freeze every time i spray it" is not implied. The first example would be true, however again, don't be a nazi warden.

Hope this helped!

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CharlieKelly wrote:
Mr.GoldGames wrote:
SilverStevie wrote:
cnnalin wrote:
I always thought u have to say follow cause nothing is implied other than detour or delay

This.

Now my question is for "Rush and follow my spray," not implying freeze but if after they reach warden's spray, can they run off?
Then they are not following it?
But then jumping would be going farther away from the spray, so can I then shoot for jumping?


All very nice questions!
- Basically the answer to the first one is yes. They have completed the order and can run off your spray, but once you spray your spray again, they must run to your spray to complete the order.
- Technically they are, because they ran and followed your spray, got to your spray, then ran off because you didn't say freeze.
- If they jump over your spray, that could be considered a delay if you are an extreme nazi warden. They didn't take the fastest route to your spray, instead they skipped your spray entirely.

"Rush and freeze every time i spray it" is not implied. The first example would be true, however again, don't be a nazi warden.

Hope this helped!

If you run off you are longer following the spray...

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I said this last time this thing came up but when you say "rush to my spray and freeze" its not implied that you have to keep going to each spray, its directly stated.

If you say "rush to my spray AND freeze" you are telling T's to be taking fastest route AND be frozen on your spray, meaning if you move your spray they are no longer frozen on your spray and need to move to the new one.

If you say "rush to my spray THEN freeze" you are telling the T's to take the fastest rout to your spray THEN freeze in then location they are in, meaning even if your move your spray they stay where the old one was.

Kharn agreed with this months ago in a meeting but also said that since they were both so similar it would be wordplay to use "then" instead of "and".

Long story short yall need to freshen up on your English and stop trying to be shitty ass nazi's, just let them play games to die. Its jailbreak not Auschwitz simulator.
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Mr. Simplistic wrote:
I said this last time this thing came up but when you say "rush to my spray and freeze" its not implied that you have to keep going to each spray, its directly stated.

If you say "rush to my spray AND freeze" you are telling T's to be taking fastest route AND be frozen on your spray, meaning if you move your spray they are no longer frozen on your spray and need to move to the new one.

If you say "rush to my spray THEN freeze" you are telling the T's to take the fastest rout to your spray THEN freeze in then location they are in, meaning even if your move your spray they stay where the old one was.

Kharn agreed with this months ago in a meeting but also said that since they were both so similar it would be wordplay to use "then" instead of "and".

Long story short yall need to freshen up on your English and stop trying to be shitty ass nazi's, just let them play games to die. Its jailbreak not Auschwitz simulator.

That's not how English works man. "Rush to my spray and freeze" means go to the spray and freeze. I don't see how moving the spray would mean the T's follow the spray, since they are supposed to be frozen. They complied with the order: 1. They went to the spray, and 2. They froze. Once you are frozen, you aren't supposed to move, and with the given order they are now waiting for another order. If they move after that without you saying anything, they aren't following orders, since the last order was to freeze. You even say it properly in the next sentence "..telling T's to be taking fastest route AND be frozen on your spray". That is the correct way to say you want them to follow your spray. If you say the latter, it means if they are not frozen on your spray, they are not following orders, so if you move if they have to move to go to it. Saying "go to my spray and freeze" is just that, going to the spray that they spray, and freezing.

If you wanted people to follow your spray, well then you have to tell them to follow it, or tell them to run to it every time you spray it.

If someone starts asking me to go to a spray, I just politely ask if they want us to do it every time. Pretty simple :/

But I agree, it should be clarified and included somewhere.
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