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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:57 pm 
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Sounds to me like you were being a smartass, which can you get banned btw. Sure it might be considered a "cell" but as no one spawns there I wouldn't call it one. The rule pertains to you and your cell in which you spawned and the instance in which you are "in it." Really being "in a cell" would require that the cell door be shut. Whether you consider it a cell or not, the warden can still use the cells for a fun game, so long as the doors are open and the CTs are playing their roles.

well two people in this thread already said that it is a cell so if you say it is not then there is already confusion in that regard, im not trying to be a smartass because even though ts dont spawn in there on this map, they have in other servers and ive always known the vip cell to be.. a cell?
so this is the official stance, that i can put all the ts into a single cell and then do minigames? you are staff after all, so i would adhere to what you say.

I mean I did say it doesn't matter whether you consider it a cell or not, me saying that it's not was a matter of opinion.

And undeniably CTs have been stashing terrorists in isolation to play games, and that's definitely a cell, so I mean this isn't anything new.


Matt: How on earth did you get "being a smartass" out of this post? Sounds to me like you are being an asshole yourself. Stop being so hard on the guy. That comment was unnecessary.

Uncle: Anyways, I never saw a problem with doing things in VIP cell because it's a nice place to do a lot of games. I like to have it so that the T's can't rebel as easily and it makes razor less "rebellious". So I'd say you go ahead and do it as long as you are following server rules. Nice topic dude!
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unclepeepee wrote:
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Sounds to me like you were being a smartass, which can you get banned btw. Sure it might be considered a "cell" but as no one spawns there I wouldn't call it one. The rule pertains to you and your cell in which you spawned and the instance in which you are "in it." Really being "in a cell" would require that the cell door be shut. Whether you consider it a cell or not, the warden can still use the cells for a fun game, so long as the doors are open and the CTs are playing their roles.

well two people in this thread already said that it is a cell so if you say it is not then there is already confusion in that regard, im not trying to be a smartass because even though ts dont spawn in there on this map, they have in other servers and ive always known the vip cell to be.. a cell?
so this is the official stance, that i can put all the ts into a single cell and then do minigames? you are staff after all, so i would adhere to what you say.

I mean I did say it doesn't matter whether you consider it a cell or not, me saying that it's not was a matter of opinion.

but you still are making a ruling that i can put all the ts into a single cell and do games like math trivia, simon says, ect? as long as the doors are open? that seems a little messy doesnt it? and shouldnt the rules be adjusted to say these things instead of them being left up to interpretation? as it stands all the rule says is 58 You may not give in-cell orders. Guards (CT)
so i was following that literally but i guess there are additional rules to that rule that arent in the rules so you can imagine how that can be confusing to people

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Btw I agree with Matt as long as cell doors are open and since you can't really be trapped in there due to secrets it's basically the same as solitary and how many times have we had warday in solitary or fish in a barrel or whatever.

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i didnt realize ts could be made to go into solitary as well, since the door automatically closes, ts do spawn in there, and it is a cell. i think you misunderstand the point of my thread, im not nitpicking because i want to make things harder for ts or gameplay more static and boring. im trying to make the server a better place by having these subjective issues be turned into objective solutions so rule confusion doesnt happen

Yes, you can put terrorists into any cell or VIP to play games for the reasons and conditions I already stated. There's no need to add more rules when the existing rules already place the limits on one another. It's basically like the 3 branches of US government, checks and balances. One rule can only do so much without the others placing limits upon them. If you don't know what I mean, well, check the rules and look at every rule that could apply to this.

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Mr.GoldGames wrote:
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Sounds to me like you were being a smartass, which can you get banned btw. Sure it might be considered a "cell" but as no one spawns there I wouldn't call it one. The rule pertains to you and your cell in which you spawned and the instance in which you are "in it." Really being "in a cell" would require that the cell door be shut. Whether you consider it a cell or not, the warden can still use the cells for a fun game, so long as the doors are open and the CTs are playing their roles.

well two people in this thread already said that it is a cell so if you say it is not then there is already confusion in that regard, im not trying to be a smartass because even though ts dont spawn in there on this map, they have in other servers and ive always known the vip cell to be.. a cell?
so this is the official stance, that i can put all the ts into a single cell and then do minigames? you are staff after all, so i would adhere to what you say.

I mean I did say it doesn't matter whether you consider it a cell or not, me saying that it's not was a matter of opinion.

And undeniably CTs have been stashing terrorists in isolation to play games, and that's definitely a cell, so I mean this isn't anything new.


Matt: How on earth did you get "being a smartass" out of this post? Sounds to me like you are being an asshole yourself. Stop being so hard on the guy. That comment was unnecessary.

Uncle: Anyways, I never saw a problem with doing things in VIP cell because it's a nice place to do a lot of games. I like to have it so that the T's can't rebel as easily and it makes razor less "rebellious". So I'd say you go ahead and do it as long as you are following server rules. Nice topic dude!

thanks my man at least somebody is picking up what im laying down here lol
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Solitary door also opens automatically periodically and has a hidden button

solitary door does not open periodically a button has to be pressed for it to be opened whether outside or inside
and how are cts supposed to keep the door open? does a guard have to be constantly pressing the button or can the warden tell the ts to hop around and press the button while doing these alleged games? if the cts are standing there pressing a button to keep it open are they actually performing their role as a guard? also if somebody was in the solitary and had a gun, the ct keeping the door open would get headshot pretty quick so its stupid in almost every way you look at it lol
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Matt: How on earth did you get "being a smartass" out of this post? Sounds to me like you are being an asshole yourself. Stop being so hard on the guy. That comment was unnecessary.

And this comment was necessary?

Locked, he got the answer he asked for.

EDIT: Unlocked per popular request, please stay on topic and don't make this a shitstorm.
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So just to say what I said in chat:
CharlieKelly « Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:11 pm » Ok, from now on step out and back into your domicile, t's
mattlikespie « Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:09 pm » "being in a cell" really requires you being "in it" i.e doors still shut and no other orders given
mattlikespie « Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:09 pm » like what I said in the thread

Obviously thats being a dick, but it's what people are going to do. I don't think we should give T's any commands besides step out while they are in cell, it just kinda ruins the game play IMO, cause what would end up happening is that Ts would be in their cells, doing math trivia non stop. not to mention maps like mario where there are no weapons, so you could keep T's there with no fear. Just boring.

I don't know about modifying rules, maybe we need a "JB Handbook" that defines shit, so that people can go to when they are confused. Not rules, but things like "equiped" vs "holstered" that we had, and now what a cell is constituted as. I dunno, just spitballing
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CharlieKelly wrote:
So just to say what I said in chat:
CharlieKelly « Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:11 pm » Ok, from now on step out and back into your domicile, t's
mattlikespie « Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:09 pm » "being in a cell" really requires you being "in it" i.e doors still shut and no other orders given
mattlikespie « Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:09 pm » like what I said in the thread

Obviously thats being a dick, but it's what people are going to do. I don't think we should give T's any commands besides step out while they are in cell, it just kinda ruins the game play IMO, cause what would end up happening is that Ts would be in their cells, doing math trivia non stop. not to mention maps like mario where there are no weapons, so you could keep T's there with no fear. Just boring.

I don't know about modifying rules, maybe we need a "JB Handbook" that defines shit, so that people can go to when they are confused. Not rules, but things like "equiped" vs "holstered" that we had, and now what a cell is constituted as. I dunno, just spitballing

I understand how I've been contradictory, I will discuss this with the staff later. Yea, in your scenario, I'd consider it being an ass and not playing role, but I see what you're getting at.

I really like the idea of that "handbook." Perhaps I can organize one being made or make one or something, thanks for that.
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yeah i already got slayed like 5 minutes after you said it was cool to do that so this is definitely a thread that needs to keep going so everyone is on the same page hahahah man i laughed so hard though it was great
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I talked to Bourne, and I myself know for a fact you cannot give in-cell orders.

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In way if you give a T an order to go in a cell and freeze that's giving in-cell orders in which you can't do.

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okay so i guess the final verdict on this thread is that vip cell is not a cell because ts dont spawn in it(a really stupid way to classify a cell in my opinion but fine) and that in-cell orders are never allowed, whether it be solitary or a cell that ts spawn in
i do want to say as a closing statement though that i am going to make ts go inside vip cell a whole fuckton if i am ever in electric razor and im sure eventually people will see why it is a dumb idea to not classify that as a cell but thats the administrations problem not mine
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