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Should Admins be allowed to use their power on other members for ADMINISTRATIVE purposes?
Poll ended at Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:54 pm
Yes 63%  63%  [ 25 ]
No 38%  38%  [ 15 ]
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:44 pm 
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Jimmah wrote:
GoldGames I broadly agree with you. I dont think members should be able to "admin" other members

But essentially - The OP is talking about moving afks into spec -- not kick/banning folks. Personally I don't think it's too much to ask.

Edit: order of operations should still apply. If a vet is on then nothing would change. The only time this would apply is if there was only an elite/member admin on.


I thought that always the case? I was told when I was elite to just wait three rounds and if they are still AFK to move them.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 1:32 am 
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ArturoLevi wrote:
It's a nice essay, but he was asking for something very simple such as moving members to spectator or kicking them when the server is full. I don't know why you got super triggered honestly.

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Bitch u could have said this essay in 3 sentences. Learn to condense information you twat


Goldgames is explaining how hes better than everyone thats not veteran and why hes better and what makes him better
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 1:40 am 
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woissa wrote:
So the question is, should admins be allowed to use their power on members for administrative purposes?

By this, I mean things like moving AFK members into spec, kicking AFK members when the server is full.

This could (in future, but NOT when voting for this POLL) include slaying/swapping members who aren't playing their role, targeting members to mute/silence when they are spamming.

However, for the purposes of this poll, I am simply referring to using the power to move/kick AFKs and other relevant actions.


Use your best judgment if u are the highest admin on thats not afk. If a member is afk and sitting in cell or ct spawn, use ur admin chat and then swap them to spec if they dont respond. they can just switch back if they come back. if the server is full, send a message to everyone that spectators will be kicked. join a team by next round. if they dont join a team after a round or two, kick them. if it gets reported, staff will probably side with you because ur reasoning is justified. worst case scenario, staff just tells u not to do it again and you go on with ur day as usual.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:18 am 
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I don't care if i get swapped Simp... Tf?. If im afk, then go ahead and swap me to spec.. BUT make sure that the person IS afk!... Give him atleast 2 rounds before swapping a member... That's what i just have to say.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:10 am 
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Okay, I'm going to just throw this idea out here.

I'm just going to assume you want the members to have the opportunity to target members, and elites to target both members and elites. It was a good idea when I was a member/elite, but now that I am a Veteran, I clearly understand why this is not a good idea.

First off, Veterans are given many things that Members and Elites don't have because its a "gift" for earning the rank in itself. I see the ability to be able to target Members and Elites as a privilege for proving you are mature enough to know not to use that power for your own gain. Trust me, there were many people I wanted to slay/kick/ban because they were acting like a huge asshole, but I knew my limits.


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By this, I mean things like moving AFK members into spec, kicking AFK members when the server is full.
This could (in future, but NOT when voting for this POLL) include slaying/swapping members who aren't playing their role, targeting members to mute/silence when they are spamming.
However, for the purposes of this poll, I am simply referring to using the power to move/kick AFKs and other relevant actions.




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To give that to Members and Elites, is like taking away that feeling of respect and maturity because people will see that "It doesn't take a lot of maturity to be an admin with full powers." It also provides a reason for people to strive to get to Veteran. That's one of the main reasons i worked hard to get my Veteran, because I knew I could help even further. Just giving it to the whole group of admins would remove that feeling from peoples hearts because "hey, we already got it."
I feel as if it brings out the people who will be true to the clan and will work hard for what they want, instead of it getting handed to them immediately.
Secondly, you guys don't need it. You guys have the ability to report someone on the forums and let that process handle itself. "But that's not fair! You guys could easily make the reports!" Yeah? Well it wasn't fair when I did it, but I still worked my ass off to get where I am today. You need to prove you are worthy for the ability to target members. You need to show your maturity is in check, and your activity towards the clan is sufficient enough in order to obtain these high privileges.


We have to report them when they are AFK so you can come in and swap them? What kind of action would that be, you really want to be that "imporant" to egn?


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Lastly, you guys are at the bottom of the totem pole. You don't expect a job is going to give you the keys to the presidents office on the first day. There is a pyramid system just like everything up in the world. You have to separate the privileges that people get to keep the interest of those. There has to be something that divides the ranks up to actually make them ranks. If we all have the same permissions, then why have different ranks?

Again, did you even read the topic? The topic is not about slaying. Just putting AFK to spec, and kicking them when the server is full so others can play.


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I feel as if you guys should stop asking for things Veterans have, and accept that fact that everything just not going to be handed to you because you want it. If you aren't getting promoted, that should tell you something. Its rather you aren't putting enough time into the clan, or you are just a bad sport. So my answer is no. I don't see how this will benefit the clan in any way shape or form. You don't need access to this much power. Work hard, and show that you have the maturity to have access this power, and you will be Veteran before you know it.

So you actually believe we are not capable of switching AFK members to spec and kicking them when they have been in spec for 2 hours?


You really need to stop believing that everyone below veteran is incompetent to do things properly.
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Dutchie wrote:
You really need to stop believing that everyone below veteran is incompetent to do things properly.

I believe every one that is not me, needy or Charlie is too incompetent to do things properly so...
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I'm actually surprised people remembered we use a chain of command when it comes to admins. Past few years seems like its more of a free for all to who bans someone.
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Did you guys forget that I gave Elites+ the power to teleport players for 1 day and it was abused to all hell instantly?
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Did you guys forget that I gave Elites+ the power to teleport players for 1 day and it was abused to all hell instantly?

vet members used to be able to revive people. you can already see how bad that was.
Elite + used to be able to TP all the time ( or was that vet + It was a few years ago)
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Yiggles Moto wrote:
Did you guys forget that I gave Elites+ the power to teleport players for 1 day and it was abused to all hell instantly?


Did you know that I reported that issue and you assumed that only us Elites abused that power. God why can't people read my damn post and not hop into a conclusion of who did what.
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