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Young Lean
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 Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:41 pm |
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Recently was slayed for killing a T holding a holstered primary at the start of the round, he was sitting in garage with the AWP from AWP window.
I was told it was a grey zone whether or not it had to be unholstered, but as far as I can see it's pretty straight forward.
Guards (CT): T's may not be warned if they have a primary weapon equipped
Equipped - Supplied with the necessary items for a particular purpose.
I would consider having a gun on your back to be equipped, even if you're not using it at that moment or holding it in your hands.
If it were otherwise, I'd assume there would be a rule saying specifically that you have to warn them to drop it, like with secondary weapons.
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CharlieKelly
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:47 pm |
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As far as I'm aware, you have to have the primary unholstered to be considered rebelling. If you have it holstered you are not.
Secondaries, as long as you aren't pointing it at a CT, then you are ok to have it out.
Though I agree, "Equipped" is pretty vague in terms of counter-strike (and JB) lingo. Should probably update it to say "unholstered"
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Anakin: No
The Senate: I thought not. It’s not a story the Jedi would tell you. It’s a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life… He had such a knowledge of the dark side, he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying.
Anakin: He could actually save people from death?
The Senate: The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
Anakin: What happened to him?
The Senate: He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself.
Anakin: Is it possible to learn this power?
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cnnalin
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:16 pm |
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They probably didn't know this cause they didn't attend the admin meeting but I'm pretty sure the rule actually states that if a T has any primary holstered or Unholstered , they can be shot and killed!
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CharlieKelly
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:26 pm |
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cnnalin wrote: They probably didn't know this cause they didn't attend the admin meeting but I'm pretty sure the rule actually states that if a T has any primary holstered or Unholstered , they can be shot and killed! He quoted the rule as they are on the forums (and should be in-game): Young Lean wrote: Guards (CT): T's may not be warned if they have a primary weapon equipped Which is rule 59, in the CT section. Should just be clarified and this one is another closed case in the EgN files. |
Gonna revise your Levi's with physical harm
Put divets in the rivets with my physical arm
Gonna beat those jeans, gonna dip em in slime
Turn your 501s into 499s The Senate: Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise?
Anakin: No
The Senate: I thought not. It’s not a story the Jedi would tell you. It’s a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life… He had such a knowledge of the dark side, he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying.
Anakin: He could actually save people from death?
The Senate: The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
Anakin: What happened to him?
The Senate: He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself.
Anakin: Is it possible to learn this power?
The Senate: Not from a Jedi. |
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Young Lean
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:39 pm |
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CharlieKelly wrote: cnnalin wrote: They probably didn't know this cause they didn't attend the admin meeting but I'm pretty sure the rule actually states that if a T has any primary holstered or Unholstered , they can be shot and killed! He quoted the rule as they are on the forums (and should be in-game): Young Lean wrote: Guards (CT): T's may not be warned if they have a primary weapon equipped Which is rule 59, in the CT section. Should just be clarified and this one is another closed case in the EgN files. It's quoted from the in-game rules. |
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:08 pm |
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Young Lean wrote: CharlieKelly wrote: cnnalin wrote: They probably didn't know this cause they didn't attend the admin meeting but I'm pretty sure the rule actually states that if a T has any primary holstered or Unholstered , they can be shot and killed! He quoted the rule as they are on the forums (and should be in-game): Young Lean wrote: Guards (CT): T's may not be warned if they have a primary weapon equipped Which is rule 59, in the CT section. Should just be clarified and this one is another closed case in the EgN files. It's quoted from the in-game rules. |
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:12 pm |
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A terrorist with an unholstered primary may be killed, even if they just picked it up, got planted, etc., that was the intention of the rule. Regardless, we have another rule that already elimates the "grey zone" here. Quote: A prisoner carrying a holstered weapon must always be warned to drop it. |
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Young Lean
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:23 pm |
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mattlikespie wrote: A terrorist with an unholstered primary may be killed, even if they just picked it up, got planted, etc., that was the intention of the rule. Regardless, we have another rule that already elimates the "grey zone" here. Quote: A prisoner carrying a holstered weapon must always be warned to drop it. So why not remove the rule stating they do not need a warning? |
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:05 pm |
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Young Lean wrote: mattlikespie wrote: A terrorist with an unholstered primary may be killed, even if they just picked it up, got planted, etc., that was the intention of the rule. Regardless, we have another rule that already elimates the "grey zone" here. Quote: A prisoner carrying a holstered weapon must always be warned to drop it. So why not remove the rule stating they do not need a warning? Both rules should stay, we should just re-word them so they are consistent with each other. Just change "Equipped" to "Un-Holstered" and the confusion is gone. |
Gonna revise your Levi's with physical harm
Put divets in the rivets with my physical arm
Gonna beat those jeans, gonna dip em in slime
Turn your 501s into 499s The Senate: Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise?
Anakin: No
The Senate: I thought not. It’s not a story the Jedi would tell you. It’s a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life… He had such a knowledge of the dark side, he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying.
Anakin: He could actually save people from death?
The Senate: The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
Anakin: What happened to him?
The Senate: He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself.
Anakin: Is it possible to learn this power?
The Senate: Not from a Jedi. |
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:10 pm |
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Changed the word from "equipped" to "unholstered" to avoid this confusion.
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