CT: Exposing Secrets?

Phillip · **Posted:** Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:29 pm

Roaxes wrote:

I feel in a normal day, a CT exposing a secret should be punished. There's no reason for him to be exposing that secret and only gives assistance to a T to escape or make an already rebelling Ts life easier.

In a war day though such as a war day to pool, Ts are already rebelling obviously and are meant to have a gun to fight CTs. But at the same time the CT has no reason to be using the secret because while he may feel his life is in danger not being in the warday, he can shoot at any T delaying to attack him or shooting at him. *NOT STOPPING TO SHOOT THOUGH! Continue to warday run and shoot*

But this is me.

Roaxes put that perfectly

Mr. Simplistic · **Posted:** Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:51 pm

Phillip wrote:

Roaxes wrote:

I feel in a normal day, a CT exposing a secret should be punished. There's no reason for him to be exposing that secret and only gives assistance to a T to escape or make an already rebelling Ts life easier.

In a war day though such as a war day to pool, Ts are already rebelling obviously and are meant to have a gun to fight CTs. But at the same time the CT has no reason to be using the secret because while he may feel his life is in danger not being in the warday, he can shoot at any T delaying to attack him or shooting at him. *NOT STOPPING TO SHOOT THOUGH! Continue to warday run and shoot*

But this is me.

Roaxes put that perfectly

nah,

Quote:

"But at the same time the CT has no reason to be using the secret because while he may feel his life is in danger not being in the warday, he can shoot at any T delaying to attack him or shooting at him."

if he is getting shot by the whole team and is gonna die he can just take a tp, its not like its a big deal. hell, even if its just to get there faster as long as he is doing his job there is'it a problem

Phillip · **Posted:** Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:04 pm

Warday
pool - [Go through armory window, Catwalk, Cell floor]
Soccer - [Go through garage]
Kitchen - Directly to kitchen from cell floor
lower vip - use cell floor

Your CT still have time to get in position before the cell doors open

Do [Out of cells freeze] then Have your CT get to warday zone then call your warday

There's no rule stating you have to only call warday at the beginning of the round

Mr. Simplistic · **Posted:** Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:42 pm

Phillip wrote:

Warday
pool - [Go through armory window, Catwalk, Cell floor]
Soccer - [Go through garage]
Kitchen - Directly to kitchen from cell floor
lower vip - use cell floor

Your CT still have time to get in position before the cell doors open

Do [Out of cells freeze] then Have your CT get to warday zone then call your warday

There's no rule stating you have to only call warday at the beginning of the round

why are u trying so hard to avoid being chill with secrets? if it happens it happens calm ur shit

Roaxes · **Posted:** Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:08 pm

Mr. Simplistic wrote:

if he is getting shot by the whole team and is gonna die he can just take a tp, its not like its a big deal. hell, even if its just to get there faster as long as he is doing his job there is'it a problem

If he's being shot by the whole terrorist team there is a problem. If he stuck around long enough for multiple terrorist to all have guns, that is delaying. That's no ones fault but his.

If you're worried about making it to war day in time DON'T MAKE THE WARZONE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MAP
and for maps that cells auto open just don't open the cells.

There's very simple solutions that don't involve using map secrets.

Mr. Simplistic · **Posted:** Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:24 pm

Roaxes wrote:

Mr. Simplistic wrote:

if he is getting shot by the whole team and is gonna die he can just take a tp, its not like its a big deal. hell, even if its just to get there faster as long as he is doing his job there is'it a problem

If he's being shot by the whole terrorist team there is a problem. If he stuck around long enough for multiple terrorist to all have guns, that is delaying. That's no ones fault but his.

If you're worried about making it to war day in time DON'T MAKE THE WARZONE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MAP
and for maps that cells auto open just don't open the cells.

There's very simple solutions that don't involve using map secrets.

apparently you don't understand that there will be situations in which using a secret is beneficial to your team. use them then.

if not beneficial, don't use.

simple

Roaxes wrote:

If he's being shot by the whole terrorist team there is a problem. If he stuck around long enough for multiple terrorist to all have guns, that is delaying. That's no ones fault but his.

If you're worried about making it to war day in time DON'T MAKE THE WARZONE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MAP
and for maps that cells auto open just don't open the cells.

There's very simple solutions that don't involve using map secrets.

like really what are you planing on doing? slaying them when there is no rule against what they are doing because for some reason you dislike vents and teleporters?

Nickolas Magnus · **Posted:** Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:15 pm

Mr. Simplistic wrote:

Roaxes wrote:

Mr. Simplistic wrote:

if he is getting shot by the whole team and is gonna die he can just take a tp, its not like its a big deal. hell, even if its just to get there faster as long as he is doing his job there is'it a problem

If he's being shot by the whole terrorist team there is a problem. If he stuck around long enough for multiple terrorist to all have guns, that is delaying. That's no ones fault but his.

If you're worried about making it to war day in time DON'T MAKE THE WARZONE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MAP
and for maps that cells auto open just don't open the cells.

There's very simple solutions that don't involve using map secrets.

apparently you don't understand that there will be situations in which using a secret is beneficial to your team. use them then.

if not beneficial, don't use.

simple

Roaxes wrote:

If he's being shot by the whole terrorist team there is a problem. If he stuck around long enough for multiple terrorist to all have guns, that is delaying. That's no ones fault but his.

If you're worried about making it to war day in time DON'T MAKE THE WARZONE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MAP
and for maps that cells auto open just don't open the cells.

There's very simple solutions that don't involve using map secrets.

like really what are you planing on doing? slaying them when there is no rule against what they are doing because for some reason you dislike vents and teleporters?

There is a rule.

"46 You must play your role as a guard. Guards (CT)"

why would a guard walk into a prisoner's cell, knowing that the wall beside the toilet was weak, and willingly breaks it open, soon to just walk away, cause why not?

Roleplaying within the server itself is not often brought up as it is rarely seen as a problem. its mainly covered by the "dont be an asshole" rule. however, the such situation as a ct using pool vent to quickly get to pool before being murderluaited is still metagaming/not playing their role.

"But nick, what is meta gaming?"
You as a player know fully well every secret on the map, but the guard dosnt unless he find it or watches a t use it.

"but nick, what if they find it?"
What are they doing not being with the Ts? cells are open, in any realistic situation, a guard wouldnt just be bumbling around the prison while his team is trying to contain the prisoners. again, failing to play their role. the ONLY exception to this would be looking in the main cell area after ts have left cells for anyone to be camping within their cells.

Mr. Simplistic · **Posted:** Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:31 pm

Nickolas Magnus wrote:

There is a rule.

"46 You must play your role as a guard. Guards (CT)"

why would a guard walk into a prisoner's cell, knowing that the wall beside the toilet was weak, and willingly breaks it open, soon to just walk away, cause why not?

Roleplaying within the server itself is not often brought up as it is rarely seen as a problem. its mainly covered by the "dont be an asshole" rule. however, the such situation as a ct using pool vent to quickly get to pool before being murderluaited is still metagaming/not playing their role.

"But nick, what is meta gaming?"
You as a player know fully well every secret on the map, but the guard dosnt unless he find it or watches a t use it.

"but nick, what if they find it?"
What are they doing not being with the Ts? cells are open, in any realistic situation, a guard wouldnt just be bumbling around the prison while his team is trying to contain the prisoners. again, failing to play their role. the ONLY exception to this would be looking in the main cell area after ts have left cells for anyone to be camping within their cells.

No.

this is a good example of someone not being sane, metagaming is using info outside the game to gain an advantage (i.e. getting triva questions or ghosting in teamspeak), not pretending you dont know where secrets are.

If using a secret is beneficial to your team. use it.

if not beneficial, don't use.

simple

Mr.GoldGames · **Posted:** Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:41 pm

Phillip wrote:

Roaxes wrote:

I feel in a normal day, a CT exposing a secret should be punished. There's no reason for him to be exposing that secret and only gives assistance to a T to escape or make an already rebelling Ts life easier.

In a war day though such as a war day to pool, Ts are already rebelling obviously and are meant to have a gun to fight CTs. But at the same time the CT has no reason to be using the secret because while he may feel his life is in danger not being in the warday, he can shoot at any T delaying to attack him or shooting at him. *NOT STOPPING TO SHOOT THOUGH! Continue to warday run and shoot*

But this is me.

Roaxes put that perfectly

Staff agreed this was a perfect response. Not sure why people are still belly aching over the topic.

Mr. Simplistic · **Posted:** Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:39 pm

Mr.GoldGames wrote:

Phillip wrote:

Roaxes wrote:

I feel in a normal day, a CT exposing a secret should be punished. There's no reason for him to be exposing that secret and only gives assistance to a T to escape or make an already rebelling Ts life easier.

In a war day though such as a war day to pool, Ts are already rebelling obviously and are meant to have a gun to fight CTs. But at the same time the CT has no reason to be using the secret because while he may feel his life is in danger not being in the warday, he can shoot at any T delaying to attack him or shooting at him. *NOT STOPPING TO SHOOT THOUGH! Continue to warday run and shoot*

But this is me.

Roaxes put that perfectly

Staff agreed this was a perfect response. Not sure why people are still belly aching over the topic.

uh as u can see i dont agree with the admins response and i stated why:

Mr. Simplistic wrote:

Phillip wrote:

Roaxes wrote:

I feel in a normal day, a CT exposing a secret should be punished. There's no reason for him to be exposing that secret and only gives assistance to a T to escape or make an already rebelling Ts life easier.

In a war day though such as a war day to pool, Ts are already rebelling obviously and are meant to have a gun to fight CTs. But at the same time the CT has no reason to be using the secret because while he may feel his life is in danger not being in the warday, he can shoot at any T delaying to attack him or shooting at him. *NOT STOPPING TO SHOOT THOUGH! Continue to warday run and shoot*

But this is me.

Roaxes put that perfectly

nah,

Quote:

"But at the same time the CT has no reason to be using the secret because while he may feel his life is in danger not being in the warday, he can shoot at any T delaying to attack him or shooting at him."

if he is getting shot by the whole team and is gonna die he can just take a tp, its not like its a big deal. hell, even if its just to get there faster as long as he is doing his job there is'it a problem

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