Ban Reports Are Lacking Proof

Mr.GoldGames · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2017 11:07 am

Happy New Year to everyone. Hope 2017 brings you better times than last year did.

So I just wanted to make a little post about how some ban reports are lacking the proof they need to fully become a well constructed ban report. Now the problem with this is if the player who was banned makes a ban appeal, they have a better chance at being unbanned from the servers because of the lack of proof.

Even though the format doesn't include a proof section, you still need it. I've spoke with some higher ups about this and I just wanted to shed some light on the topic. If Staff+ want to provide their input as well, that would be cool too.

Some Recent Bans that Need Proof:

viewtopic.php?f=115&t=23582
viewtopic.php?f=115&t=23554

Hope this helps people who needed to know this.

Caboose · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2017 11:17 am

Mr.GoldGames wrote:

Even though it says that you don't need proof, you still need it.

Then why would it say they don't need proof?

Mr.GoldGames · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2017 11:20 am

Caboose wrote:

Mr.GoldGames wrote:

Even though it says that you don't need proof, you still need it.

Then why would it say they don't need proof?

Edited to make my point clearer. I don't know why it doesn't have that section included in the format, but Ive been told you need proof either way.

unclepeepee · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2017 11:24 am

the brandy i drank was 80 proof is that enough

Mr Majestic · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2017 11:36 am

Oh shit, the Staff rank is dark blue now? That's something I must of missed at the meeting.

Caboose · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2017 11:47 am

Mr Majestic wrote:

Oh shit, the Staff rank is dark blue now? That's something I must of missed at the meeting.

Are people not allowed to help if they're not staff?
If the ban reports need proof in them and the admins don't add it, then bringing attention to that will remind said admins to include proof. And can inform newer admins that they need to remember to post proof.

Quit being a dick and let people help this community. Fuck knows you need all the help you can get so if someone wants to put the effort in to help maybe you shouldn't just kick them to the kerb every time they fucking try.

Mr Majestic · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:25 pm

Caboose wrote:

Mr Majestic wrote:

Oh shit, the Staff rank is dark blue now? That's something I must of missed at the meeting.

Are people not allowed to help if they're not staff?
If the ban reports need proof in them and the admins don't add it, then bringing attention to that will remind said admins to include proof. And can inform newer admins that they need to remember to post proof.

Quit being a dick and let people help this community. Fuck knows you need all the help you can get so if someone wants to put the effort in to help maybe you shouldn't just kick them to the kerb every time they fucking try.

I'm all for helping the community, i mean, that's what i'm doing.
Bringing it to attention is fine, but considering it was just 3, then take it to them privately, that's what i do. I don't make a big deal out of it and show the entire community that these guys fuck up. I'm glad they're putting the effort in, it's good to see.

I'm not being a dick, i'm just trying to state that what gold has done, is the staff's job.

clanfaq wrote:

Veterans;
- Trusted members of the community.
- Accountable for behavior of elite and member ranks.
- Permitted to use admin on lower ranked members to enforce sever rules (excluding ban)
- Be active on the forums, servers and team speak.
- Accountable for reporting all bans > 1day
- Vote on new Recruit

Staff;
- Responsible for reviewing ban reports. Ensuring that evidence is posted.
- Responsible for insuring veterans carry out their duties.
- Responsible for moderating the forums, removing spammers etc.
- Responsible for endorsing promotions (up to veteran)
- First in line to review ban appeals.
- First in line to approve admin applications.
- First in line for recruit-acceptance / denial.
- Be active on the forums, servers and team speak.

cnnalin · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:53 pm

I don't think these short bans need any sort of evidence , if he makes a ban appeal and the ban is over a day maybe R evidence should be needed but if not I don't think it should be and let them wait it out because first the admins took it Upom themselves to help the community and the players to help have a better gameplay , it's not their job it's, it's something they took and the community should have enough trust to give it to these players or else why give it to them in the first place .
Trust the admins to know what they are doing and for what reason they banned them for .
It also becomes annoying to just get evidence for maybe a mic spam , you can't be recording at that time knowing someone is going to mic spam or a FREEkill maybe , it could also bring a case where they could say the person was rebelling and it could bring problems !
Let it be how it is and let's not change it
Have trust

JT-2K · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2017 1:02 pm

You are sucking so much cock trying to make your name yellow.

SilverStevie · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2017 1:18 pm

Someone said something offensive over mic. No demo. HOW IS THERE GOING TO BE PROOF?
Not all of us can demo 24/7.
Lets NOT MAKE THIS LIKE OUR OTHER FUCKING CLAN.
IF THIS PASSES THEN NEXT ONLY DEMOS WILL BE ACCEPTED AS PROOF.
We all just need common sense.

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