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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 8:27 am 
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So on Jailbreak, T's would knife around constantly when a CT asks them to freeze. Just a thing for T's to do when they are waiting for the next order.

Now my understanding is that if a CT walks into your knife, and kills you for knifing him, that was a freekill. Well Geeza did that to me today and killed me for it, saying that higher ups said that it was ok and it was not freekilling. Now this is not a complaint on Geeza, cause we both are confused on this, but i would like a clarification on this.

Why would it be ok for CT's to intentionally walk up to knifing T's, and kill them for getting knifed?
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Okay this is easy. No it's not a freekill.
Reason: Say the order was "stack shoulder to shoulder at the bottom of the main cell stair and freeze" that is what you should do not knifing... if you knife and a ct walks into it an kills you if not a freekill, because the orders was not to knife. If there was an order to continuously knife then it's a freekill.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 8:45 am 
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Okay this is easy. No it's not a freekill.
Reason: Say the order was "stack shoulder to shoulder at the bottom of the main cell stair and freeze" that is what you should do not knifing... if you knife and a ct walks into it an kills you if not a freekill, because the orders was not to knife. If there was an order to continuously knife then it's a freekill.

If any further explanation is needed bring it to the admin meeting so we can discuss it there.


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It can also be said though that the CT is not playing his role as a CT in getting so close to a T knifing intentionally damaging himself and risking gunplanting if killed. While it's not a free kill, the CT doing so should be reminded to play his role.
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Kharn also said in a meeting a while back you should only knife of you intend to kill somebody


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Roaxes wrote:
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Okay this is easy. No it's not a freekill.
Reason: Say the order was "stack shoulder to shoulder at the bottom of the main cell stair and freeze" that is what you should do not knifing... if you knife and a ct walks into it an kills you if not a freekill, because the orders was not to knife. If there was an order to continuously knife then it's a freekill.

If any further explanation is needed bring it to the admin meeting so we can discuss it there.


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It can also be said though that the CT is not playing his role as a CT in getting so close to a T knifing intentionally damaging himself and risking gunplanting if killed. While it's not a free kill, the CT doing so should be reminded to play his role.

This is what some has been acting according too. Including myself.
I strictly see it as failure to do your role as a CT, and I will instantly swap for it.
Atleast untill a further change has come to this, or anything else has been told to do.
Because I recall Kharn saying it is failure to do your role as a Prison Guard.
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I also tend to have t's who when a ct tries to get past them to chase a rebel they will knife the ct and be like oh he was to close to me for to long it was baiting. Haha then that t gets shot and I ask the rest of the group if they want to go down the same road as that t.
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I also tend to have t's who when a ct tries to get past them to chase a rebel they will knife the ct and be like oh he was to close to me for to long it was baiting. Haha then that t gets shot and I ask the rest of the group if they want to go down the same road as that t.


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Ash wrote:
Roaxes wrote:
Bourne wrote:
Okay this is easy. No it's not a freekill.
Reason: Say the order was "stack shoulder to shoulder at the bottom of the main cell stair and freeze" that is what you should do not knifing... if you knife and a ct walks into it an kills you if not a freekill, because the orders was not to knife. If there was an order to continuously knife then it's a freekill.

If any further explanation is needed bring it to the admin meeting so we can discuss it there.


Edit: Moved to the Counter-strike Source section.



It can also be said though that the CT is not playing his role as a CT in getting so close to a T knifing intentionally damaging himself and risking gunplanting if killed. While it's not a free kill, the CT doing so should be reminded to play his role.

This is what some has been acting according too. Including myself.
I strictly see it as failure to do your role as a CT, and I will instantly swap for it.
Atleast untill a further change has come to this, or anything else has been told to do.
Because I recall Kharn saying it is failure to do your role as a Prison Guard.
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There's no need to try to talk him into a corner. Both can be right. It is not considered a freekill, BUT it's also the CT not doing his job. The CT shouldn't be punished as if it is a freekill, but he is not doing his job either, and thus should be subject to admin punishment.


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This could fall in under play your role as a Guard...But it could also fall in place of don't be an asshole...You are intentionally getting a t to knife you...As i Spin in circles knifing the ground, i see guards trying to get me to knife them, so i stop...I tell them to stop intentionally trying to get me to knife them so they can get a kill...Just saying...Be a dick ct...You get dick t's and when you get dick T's, then the server becomes a disaster


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