Activists Detained in UK for Incorrect Opinions

Birthstone · **Posted:** Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:20 am

Lunk wrote:

Just like the far left (that appears to be you Birthstone) is not wrong on everything simply because it comes from the "far left".

No, I'm pretty moderate as far as the developed world goes. My views are based on objective evidence, not lies and propaganda.

Lunk wrote:

It's impossible to get 100% unbiased news but that doesn't mean we should reject it just because we have a different bias.

You're right, we should reject it because it's propaganda. And this is objectively propaganda.

Lunk wrote:

Dismissing someone just based on what political side you think they belong too is just as stupid and ignorant as believing someone with no evidence just because you agree with them.

I'm not dismissing someone based on political beliefs. I'm dismissing propaganda. I've provided evidence, propagandists in this thread have provided propaganda. It's a very simple distinction.

Mr. Simplistic · **Posted:** Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:30 am

Birthstone wrote:

Lunk wrote:

Just like the far left (that appears to be you Birthstone) is not wrong on everything simply because it comes from the "far left".

No, I'm pretty moderate as far as the developed world goes. My views are based on objective evidence, not lies and propaganda.

Lunk wrote:

It's impossible to get 100% unbiased news but that doesn't mean we should reject it just because we have a different bias.

You're right, we should reject it because it's propaganda. And this is objectively propaganda.

Lunk wrote:

Dismissing someone just based on what political side you think they belong too is just as stupid and ignorant as believing someone with no evidence just because you agree with them.

I'm not dismissing someone based on political beliefs. I'm dismissing propaganda. I've provided evidence, propagandists in this thread have provided propaganda. It's a very simple distinction.

Yes birthstone,its propaganda because it disagree's with you. There is actually no problem with lack of free speech in the uk, turns out it was only some propaganda so we dont have to look into it anymore, good work guys, problem solved, it was only propaganda...

Birthstone · **Posted:** Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:32 am

Lunk wrote:

Yes birthstone,its propaganda because it disagree's with you.

No, it's propaganda because it's propaganda. Literally. Lookup the definition of propaganda. Very simple.

Lunk wrote:

There is actually no problem with lack of free speech in the uk, turns out it was only some propaganda so we dont have to look into it anymore, good work guys, problem solved, it was only propaganda...

Not what I'm saying, it would do you some good to look up the strawman fallacy, as it's what you're doing right now. You're turning what I'm saying into something that's easier to argue against, because you can't argue against what I'm actually saying.

Freedom of speech is a valid issue that deserves discussion. Using propaganda to start this discussion is dangerous.

Doldol · **Posted:** Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:35 am

Lunk wrote:

It's impossible to get 100% unbiased news but that doesn't mean we should reject it just because we have a different bias.

I think that's sad, news should be 100% unbiased. It can be, all one would have to do is state all and only the facts. This used to be a thing btw.

Needy · **Posted:** Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:48 am

Doldol wrote:

Lunk wrote:

It's impossible to get 100% unbiased news but that doesn't mean we should reject it just because we have a different bias.

I think that's sad, news should be 100% unbiased. It can be, all one would have to do is state all and only the facts. This used to be a thing btw.

Monies

Synthic · **Posted:** Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:38 am

>the only two people who have ever tried to challenge me can only continue by insulting me and calling me a troll

Birthstone wrote:

Lunk wrote:

Just like the far left (that appears to be you Birthstone) is not wrong on everything simply because it comes from the "far left".

No, I'm pretty moderate as far as the developed world goes. My views are based on objective evidence, not lies and propaganda.

Lunk wrote:

It's impossible to get 100% unbiased news but that doesn't mean we should reject it just because we have a different bias.

You're right, we should reject it because it's propaganda. And this is objectively propaganda.

Lunk wrote:

Dismissing someone just based on what political side you think they belong too is just as stupid and ignorant as believing someone with no evidence just because you agree with them.

I'm not dismissing someone based on political beliefs. I'm dismissing propaganda. I've provided evidence, propagandists in this thread have provided propaganda. It's a very simple distinction.

I'm really at a loss for words at how you have genuinely convinced yourself that reality correlates solely with your worldview, and the only explanation for something not fitting your view is that it is a product of deceit. Profound delusion. Incapable of forming proper arguments, as well. Now please, go on about how I'm a troll and only post propaganda zzzz

Mr. Simplistic · **Posted:** Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:12 am

Birthstone wrote:

Lunk wrote:

Yes birthstone,its propaganda because it disagree's with you.

No, it's propaganda because it's propaganda. Literally. Lookup the definition of propaganda. Very simple.

Lunk wrote:

There is actually no problem with lack of free speech in the uk, turns out it was only some propaganda so we dont have to look into it anymore, good work guys, problem solved, it was only propaganda...

Not what I'm saying, it would do you some good to look up the strawman fallacy, as it's what you're doing right now. You're turning what I'm saying into something that's easier to argue against, because you can't argue against what I'm actually saying.

Freedom of speech is a valid issue that deserves discussion. Using propaganda to start this discussion is dangerous.

The fact that you actually think there is not a single shred of information in the article and its just "propaganda" is really sad and show how damn biased u are. Try deconstructing what u disagree with instead of just labeling it propaganda and maybe you might convince a few people your not blindly dismissing anything that disagrees with you.

Mr. Simplistic · **Posted:** Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:14 am

Needy wrote:

Doldol wrote:

Lunk wrote:

It's impossible to get 100% unbiased news but that doesn't mean we should reject it just because we have a different bias.

I think that's sad, news should be 100% unbiased. It can be, all one would have to do is state all and only the facts. This used to be a thing btw.

Monies

^exactly. But just because its impossible to be 100% unbiased doesn't mean you shouldn't try your best to be as unbiased as possible.

Neezon · **Posted:** Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:26 am

Doldol wrote:

Lunk wrote:

It's impossible to get 100% unbiased news but that doesn't mean we should reject it just because we have a different bias.

I think that's sad, news should be 100% unbiased. It can be, all one would have to do is state all and only the facts. This used to be a thing btw.

To be fair it is honestly impossible (as far as we know anyways) to achieve un-biased news. While there certainly are different degrees to which someone's bias is prominent in news, how one writes and what one writes will always be influenced by one's bias, regardless of attempting to stay objective.

Having said that, the news sources and specific articles originally linked in this thread show a very clear, even blatant level of bias.

Birthstone · **Posted:** Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:09 pm

Lunk wrote:

The fact that you actually think there is not a single shred of information in the article and its just "propaganda" is really sad and show how damn biased u are. Try deconstructing what u disagree with instead of just labeling it propaganda and maybe you might convince a few people your not blindly dismissing anything that disagrees with you.

I literally did deconstruct it in an earlier post. Try reading?

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