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On here it doesn't say knifing a vent makes you a rebel...

Following the great leaders logic - "If it's not in the rules it's not a rule" -Kharn

Type !rules vent
ingame and if you see it in there then it's a rule if not then it is not

Daddy wrote:

Not trying to be a smartass or anything, but rthere is a rule that may counter this: Rule 46: You must play your role as a guard. Are guards supposed to "know" secrets, and if they are knifing a vent, technically a guard doesnt know thats a vent if thats what this rule is implying. Idk I figured like u said if a guard kills a T for knifing a vent, and not telling them to stop isnt really rebelling until they break the vent/secret.

Marz wrote:

Daddy wrote:

Ok well if it's a vent then it's noticeable but if it's a secret then guards have to wait I guess. But as a guard watching someone break a vent is straight up rebelling. The guard is also not playing their role by letting them break it. In a prison if I saw a Inmate breaking a vent or in it then something is wrong here.

Link wrote:

Marz wrote:

Daddy wrote:

Should probably take away the knives from the T's then i guess... If i saw an Inmate with a knife, then something is wrong.

You guys realize you can say 'dont knife the vent", right?

Should probably play your roles, or swap to T :/

CharlieKelly wrote:

You guys realize you can say 'dont knife the vent", right?

Should probably play your roles, or swap to T :/

+1

CTs should specifically order not to knife a vent. And alot of the times I'm honestly knifing the walls just because of the sound, most of the times it not with malicious intent unless it's map I know well like razor.

Author:	Link [ Sun May 07, 2017 10:41 am ]
Post subject:	Breaking Vents/Secrets
So at the end of the day I will follow whatever the Staff+ enforce. To me breaking vents/secrets is rebelling because you're trying to escape. Sure you can say its not in the rules, but to me this is common sense in which some people rather not go by. At no point during the game does a T have the right to stay hiding in a vent or even knifing it. It is an "unknown" area for the CTs around the prison. Meaning that its expected to find Ts around the map like in showers, pool, lockers, and etc. but vents are an area which CTs do not know about (Yes I' aware that some know these secrets as CTs, but that is known as metagaming). So in prison if you find a T knifing the vent, their only intentions are to escape. Which again is rebelling because you guys have no reason to go down there or even knife it. Another thing I would compare this to is when Ts knife a CT for running pass them. You are allowed to kill them because they shouldn't of knifed you in the first place. The same goes for when a T knifes the vent, they shouldn't of been trying to break it in the first place. You guys can comment and discuss all you would like but I prefer to see input from the staff on this when they get a second.

Author:	Phillip [ Sun May 07, 2017 10:47 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Breaking Vents/Secrets
jbrules.php On here it doesn't say knifing a vent makes you a rebel... Following the great leaders logic - "If it's not in the rules it's not a rule" -Kharn Type !rules vent ingame and if you see it in there then it's a rule if not then it is not

Author:	Marz [ Sun May 07, 2017 10:53 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Breaking Vents/Secrets
Daddy wrote: http://elevatedgaming.net/forums/jbrules.php On here it doesn't say knifing a vent makes you a rebel... Following the great leaders logic - "If it's not in the rules it's not a rule" -Kharn Type !rules vent ingame and if you see it in there then it's a rule if not then it is not Not trying to be a smartass or anything, but rthere is a rule that may counter this: Rule 46: You must play your role as a guard. Are guards supposed to "know" secrets, and if they are knifing a vent, technically a guard doesnt know thats a vent if thats what this rule is implying. Idk I figured like u said if a guard kills a T for knifing a vent, and not telling them to stop isnt really rebelling until they break the vent/secret.

Author:	Link [ Sun May 07, 2017 11:05 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Breaking Vents/Secrets
Marz wrote: Daddy wrote: http://elevatedgaming.net/forums/jbrules.php On here it doesn't say knifing a vent makes you a rebel... Following the great leaders logic - "If it's not in the rules it's not a rule" -Kharn Type !rules vent ingame and if you see it in there then it's a rule if not then it is not Not trying to be a smartass or anything, but rthere is a rule that may counter this: Rule 46: You must play your role as a guard. Are guards supposed to "know" secrets, and if they are knifing a vent, technically a guard doesnt know thats a vent if thats what this rule is implying. Idk I figured like u said if a guard kills a T for knifing a vent, and not telling them to stop isnt really rebelling until they break the vent/secret. Ok well if it's a vent then it's noticeable but if it's a secret then guards have to wait I guess. But as a guard watching someone break a vent is straight up rebelling. The guard is also not playing their role by letting them break it. In a prison if I saw a Inmate breaking a vent or in it then something is wrong here.

Author:	Wolfie [ Sun May 07, 2017 11:33 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Breaking Vents/Secrets
Link wrote: Marz wrote: Daddy wrote: http://elevatedgaming.net/forums/jbrules.php On here it doesn't say knifing a vent makes you a rebel... Following the great leaders logic - "If it's not in the rules it's not a rule" -Kharn Type !rules vent ingame and if you see it in there then it's a rule if not then it is not Not trying to be a smartass or anything, but rthere is a rule that may counter this: Rule 46: You must play your role as a guard. Are guards supposed to "know" secrets, and if they are knifing a vent, technically a guard doesnt know thats a vent if thats what this rule is implying. Idk I figured like u said if a guard kills a T for knifing a vent, and not telling them to stop isnt really rebelling until they break the vent/secret. Ok well if it's a vent then it's noticeable but if it's a secret then guards have to wait I guess. But as a guard watching someone break a vent is straight up rebelling. The guard is also not playing their role by letting them break it. In a prison if I saw a Inmate breaking a vent or in it then something is wrong here. Should probably take away the knives from the T's then i guess... If i saw an Inmate with a knife, then something is wrong.

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Author:	Marz [ Sun May 07, 2017 11:39 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Breaking Vents/Secrets
Wolfie wrote: Link wrote: Marz wrote: Daddy wrote: http://elevatedgaming.net/forums/jbrules.php On here it doesn't say knifing a vent makes you a rebel... Following the great leaders logic - "If it's not in the rules it's not a rule" -Kharn Type !rules vent ingame and if you see it in there then it's a rule if not then it is not Not trying to be a smartass or anything, but rthere is a rule that may counter this: Rule 46: You must play your role as a guard. Are guards supposed to "know" secrets, and if they are knifing a vent, technically a guard doesnt know thats a vent if thats what this rule is implying. Idk I figured like u said if a guard kills a T for knifing a vent, and not telling them to stop isnt really rebelling until they break the vent/secret. Ok well if it's a vent then it's noticeable but if it's a secret then guards have to wait I guess. But as a guard watching someone break a vent is straight up rebelling. The guard is also not playing their role by letting them break it. In a prison if I saw a Inmate breaking a vent or in it then something is wrong here. Should probably take away the knives from the T's then i guess... If i saw an Inmate with a knife, then something is wrong. Well like I said, I see the points that are being made, obviously there are tons of loopholes that people may find with the rules

Author:	CharlieKelly [ Sun May 07, 2017 11:47 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Breaking Vents/Secrets
You guys realize you can say 'dont knife the vent", right? Should probably play your roles, or swap to T :/

Author:	McNugget [ Sun May 07, 2017 12:19 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Breaking Vents/Secrets
CharlieKelly wrote: You guys realize you can say 'dont knife the vent", right? Should probably play your roles, or swap to T :/ +1 CTs should specifically order not to knife a vent. And alot of the times I'm honestly knifing the walls just because of the sound, most of the times it not with malicious intent unless it's map I know well like razor.

Author:	Link [ Sun May 07, 2017 12:39 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Breaking Vents/Secrets
McNugget wrote: CharlieKelly wrote: You guys realize you can say 'dont knife the vent", right? Should probably play your roles, or swap to T :/ +1 CTs should specifically order not to knife a vent. And alot of the times I'm honestly knifing the walls just because of the sound, most of the times it not with malicious intent unless it's map I know well like razor. The T shouldn't be in a vent in the first place or knifing it because they know where it leads. I'm not trying to argue but it gets old when everyone wants to be a smartass about it. Saying "Oh you never said no knifing vents". Just thinking about how that sounds on their part is really off putting to me. They know its a vent and that it is for escaping/rebelling lol. So for those bashing on it, how bout you have a conversation instead of trying to toss out little petty remarks that are gonna just get the thread locked.

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