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 Post subject: Problems with EgN Rules
PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:30 pm 
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The server rules need to become more specific and tweaked.
Rule " 36 Do not bait (give guns to Ts)." This rule should be don’t be in knifing distance, I’ve had so many problem when I’m standing their knifing cause why not, and act will run into my knife and kill me for this. Which should be a free kill but yet most admins will say nothing or won’t do anything.
Rule 40 throwing a grenade are punishable. Then why do you get slayed for killing a T throwing a smoke GRENADE. I understand they don’t cause damage but, it causes so many problems for CTs and Ts, you can’t guard the T when you can see them, and that stops the round from progressing.
Trusted members/recruits should be able to mute cause there are rules were if you talk over warden you can be muted, but when there is no admins and only recruits then people mic spam a shit ton.
Too many times when you’re being told to take it forum by the admins, the admins should be helping not telling you to take it to the forums. The forums should be a last resort when there is admins on.
Dead should be auto muted it will help stop mic spammer and ghosters, I do understand it helps with freekills, but there is the private message an admin command.
Another problem is all the sexual sprays, I understand u need to be like 18+ to play the games, but as a welcoming community the spray are a big problems. I’ve seen spray of girl's asses or cum on a girl's face. There are way too many sexual sprays.
I have also noticed that some staff members think that they are always right due to being a higher up of the community.
This was sent to me by someone who's played on the server for a few weeks, and it’s really bad they already notice all these mistakes which is why I wanted to post this.
‘I as a 3 year member of this community agree with the person that wrote this and playing on this server for 3 years I have only noticed 3 changes in the rules’-COOKIE
EgN| SkyxDreamz : but u cant aim...
EgN-R| KariSwift killed EgN| SkyxDreamz with awp.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:31 pm 
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I fully agree with the person who wrote this and I only wrote the part at the bottom
EgN| SkyxDreamz : but u cant aim...
EgN-R| KariSwift killed EgN| SkyxDreamz with awp.

Yeah about that I am mentally an retard I should just not said that to be honest but I Did I'm not gonna joke like that anymore I am going to be for real mature I keep acting like a retard.-Artemis
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:34 pm 
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... I totally agree with this too, ive been freekilled for this so many times, and have had the same problems


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:44 pm 
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@Rule36 There is another rule stating that CTs are forbidden to stand close to the terrorists for a prolonged amount of time.
@Rule40 The rule is as stated and no CT should be getting slated for killing a terrorist for throwing a grenade of any type
@TheRest Admins are in place for a reason. I understand many are inactive, but giving non-admin players admin authority is probably one of the worst solutions. The spray rule was changed for a reason I still do not, but there is still a rule that states that disturbing sprays are allowed. So, in the spray examples you mentioned, admins still have full entitlement to warn and punish players with those sprays as they see fit.

However, while I countered most of your arguments, I realize that there is still a problem with admin infrastructure and consistency. These concerns clearly arose because admins are not following the guidelines in place or the rules for that matter. Admins are online to enforce the rules and enhance the gameplay experience by doing so. Clearly there has been admins not doing that hence this post. Many of these rules cookie pointed out are indeed very broad and up to each admin how they enforce i.e lack of consistency. Therefore, I stand with Cookie in saying, although he didn't really say it directly, that the entire admin system needs to be reworked. As I've mentioned before, I'll say it again, I am willing to help do so if need be. Please higher ups review thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:51 pm 
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Their is a rule standing near them but its more about the fact that the cts are running into Ts whilst they are knifing and killing us even tho they done it on purpose.
Plus what if the grenade is thrown at a ct, do the Ts deserved to get killed?
EgN| SkyxDreamz : but u cant aim...
EgN-R| KariSwift killed EgN| SkyxDreamz with awp.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:54 pm 
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Rule 40 throwing a grenade are punishable. Then why do you get slayed for killing a T throwing a smoke GRENADE. I understand they don’t cause damage but, it causes so many problems for CTs and Ts, you can’t guard the T when you can see them, and that stops the round from progressing.

the admin who slayed a CT for killing a T when he threw a smake nade was in the wrong as a grenade is a grenade weather is harms or not.


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Another problem is all the sexual sprays, I understand u need to be like 18+ to play the games, but as a welcoming community the spray are a big problems. I’ve seen spray of girl's asses or cum on a girl's face. There are way too many sexual sprays.

if you have a problem with someones spray and find it disturbing all you need to is message admins as "no disturbing spray's is a rule


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‘I as a 3 year member of this community agree with the person that wrote this and playing on this server for 3 years I have only noticed 3 changes in the rules’-COOKIE

the rules dont change very often unless there is good reason (or popular vote) but i have seen the rules change quite a bit since my time joining EgN and i dont think i've been here for over 3 years

the stuff not mentioned are things that make our server unique (such as dead being able to still chat with their bud's while dead) and can easily be taken care of by admins. even if these features were changed (such as auto mute dead) players would still find ways to be trolls when admins are offline as this is the nature of the internet
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However, while I countered most of your arguments, I realize that there is still a problem with admin infrastructure and consistency. These concerns clearly arose because admins are not following the guidelines in place or the rules for that matter. Admins are online to enforce the rules and enhance the gameplay experience by doing so. Clearly there has been admins not doing that hence this post. Many of these rules cookie pointed out are indeed very broad and up to each admin how they enforce i.e lack of consistency.

i agree that admins need to have some way of showing that they are capable as they have been doing silly things lately

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Their is a rule standing near them but its more about the fact that the cts are running into Ts whilst they are knifing and killing us even tho they done it on purpose.
Plus what if the grenade is thrown at a ct, do the Ts deserved to get killed?

i support the rule the way it is right now, as long as the CT is not blocking you (which there is a rule against) then he is not in your way. if you feel the need to randomly knife air and not get shot idk what to tell ya man :<
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:58 pm 
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COOK1E wrote:
Their is a rule standing near them but its more about the fact that the cts are running into Ts whilst they are knifing and killing us even tho they done it on purpose.
Plus what if the grenade is thrown at a ct, do the Ts deserved to get killed?

I see what you are saying now about the first part; that's a question I cannot answer and I recommend bringing it up during the upcoming meeting if you can and its not resolved by then. I know that as far as the rules go CTs can still kill the terrorist for knifing them regardless, but it's a dick move that I don't agree with. But, as simplistic said, Ts should be smarter about that, so idk. As for the grenades; again, throwing a grenade of any type as a T at anyone is kill able, unless explicitly instructed by CT warden to do so, which, I believe, is refusable by the T.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:10 pm 
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Their is a rule standing near them but its more about the fact that the cts are running into Ts whilst they are knifing and killing us even tho they done it on purpose.
Plus what if the grenade is thrown at a ct, do the Ts deserved to get killed?

That's being an asshole, and they can be punished for that, if an admin feels the desire to.

However, you as a prisoner shouldn't be knifing around in the air when a guard is near you. The only time I feel they should be slain for doing that is if the order is to continuously knife, or something along those lines, and they decide to run up to you and shoot you while you have no choice but to knife. Otherwise, it was your choice to swing your knife, and it just happened to damage a guard.

(@ Grenades)If you see an admin doing that, inform them that they are doing it wrong by showing them the rule (don't just tell them "Hey, you're doing it wrong!" with no proof), as a CT should not be slain for that. If they don't listen after being shown the rule, report them or message a staff+.

(@ ForumStuff) The sad truth of the matter (for players anyways) is that most of the admins more recently want to play, rather than administrate. I'd say it's unfair to ask them to administrate at all times since they are not paid to administrate, and the times they do spend actually administrating is volunteered time. They want to play jailbreak every once and a while rather than just administrate it. However, if you are finding that there are no admins on whenever you are on, get accepted as a member and apply for admin. Then you can volunteer as much time as you want to helping keep the server clean, and can enforce the rules just as you read them. Until then, live with the fact that you will need to use the forums when there are admins not "doing their jobs", or let it all go. While we appreciate when you submit reports of people breaking the rules, nobody here is forcing you to do something you don't want to do.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:35 pm 
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Yeah man, if you're randomly knifing while a CT is approaching you, you're kinda asking for trouble.

As for the "disturbing sprays"...Come on dude. Life is going to be really, REALLY tough for you if seeing a chick's posterior rustles your jimmies.

I don't kill Ts who throw grenades, but I probably should.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:49 pm 
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As for the "disturbing sprays"...Come on dude. Life is going to be really, REALLY tough for you if seeing a chick's posterior rustles your jimmies.

I don't kill Ts who throw grenades, but I probably should.


The rule before was no showing of intimate body parts. Which technically allowed gore, and other NSFL images. The change to the wording acts as a blanket to cover those sprays as well. If a player doesn't want porn shoved in their face, they shouldn't have to.
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