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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 7:01 am 
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Your statement is logically flawed. Please re-read my post. You didn't get the point.


I completely understand what your saying. My point is that we won't change a rule based on one persons view of the rule. The community has built the rules we use today.

So point being if you dislike the rules there is a way to fix this.
Become member= donate to the clan= get admin= attend meetings= bring your views there= vote on rule changes and done!

I mean during that meeting I absolutely voted for revamping the entire infrastructure of jailbreak but sadly I didn't get my way so I'm just as dissepointed as you are. #reform #JailBreakMade4Semi


Is everything a joke to you?


Did you actually read his whole post as a "Joke"? Makes completely sense to me....


Also, if there were nudity, (showing any sort of genitalia) the admin should have taken action, unless that admin was unaware of it. If not, a proper admin complaint could do the trick :)
Also, you could do as several others have done before; screenshot, and report the player here on the forums with evidence (in a spoiler) or in a pm to staff+?
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<05:09:34> "Wolfie" was removed from server group "Supporter" by "Kharn".
<05:09:39> "Wolfie" was added to server group "Staff" by "Kharn".

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 7:36 am 
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We do have kids on the server, so I think we should just ban porny and gory sprays completely. It's a 10 year old game, if you want to beat your dick go on something else.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:04 am 
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PrimeLGTV wrote:
SemiAutoNoob wrote:
PrimeLGTV wrote:

Your statement is logically flawed. Please re-read my post. You didn't get the point.


I completely understand what your saying. My point is that we won't change a rule based on one persons view of the rule. The community has built the rules we use today.

So point being if you dislike the rules there is a way to fix this.
Become member= donate to the clan= get admin= attend meetings= bring your views there= vote on rule changes and done!

I mean during that meeting I absolutely voted for revamping the entire infrastructure of jailbreak but sadly I didn't get my way so I'm just as dissepointed as you are. #reform #JailBreakMade4Semi


Is everything a joke to you?



He answered logically

Anyways if you do see porn sprays, just get their steam id and report them.
Disturbing sprays such as
Gore sprays
Porn Sprays
Etc, are not allowed.
Anything that an admin finds "disturbing" he can tell them to change.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:38 am 
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Wolfie wrote:
PrimeLGTV wrote:
SemiAutoNoob wrote:
PrimeLGTV wrote:

Your statement is logically flawed. Please re-read my post. You didn't get the point.


I completely understand what your saying. My point is that we won't change a rule based on one persons view of the rule. The community has built the rules we use today.

So point being if you dislike the rules there is a way to fix this.
Become member= donate to the clan= get admin= attend meetings= bring your views there= vote on rule changes and done!

I mean during that meeting I absolutely voted for revamping the entire infrastructure of jailbreak but sadly I didn't get my way so I'm just as dissepointed as you are. #reform #JailBreakMade4Semi


Is everything a joke to you?


Did you actually read his whole post as a "Joke"? Makes completely sense to me....


Also, if there were nudity, (showing any sort of genitalia) the admin should have taken action, unless that admin was unaware of it. If not, a proper admin complaint could do the trick :)
Also, you could do as several others have done before; screenshot, and report the player here on the forums with evidence (in a spoiler) or in a pm to staff+?


That would be a lot of admin and player reports when really we can just eliminate the confusion and waste of time by adding specifications to the rule.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:17 am 
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PrimeLGTV wrote:
Wolfie wrote:
PrimeLGTV wrote:
SemiAutoNoob wrote:
PrimeLGTV wrote:

Your statement is logically flawed. Please re-read my post. You didn't get the point.


I completely understand what your saying. My point is that we won't change a rule based on one persons view of the rule. The community has built the rules we use today.

So point being if you dislike the rules there is a way to fix this.
Become member= donate to the clan= get admin= attend meetings= bring your views there= vote on rule changes and done!

I mean during that meeting I absolutely voted for revamping the entire infrastructure of jailbreak but sadly I didn't get my way so I'm just as dissepointed as you are. #reform #JailBreakMade4Semi


Is everything a joke to you?


Did you actually read his whole post as a "Joke"? Makes completely sense to me....


Also, if there were nudity, (showing any sort of genitalia) the admin should have taken action, unless that admin was unaware of it. If not, a proper admin complaint could do the trick :)
Also, you could do as several others have done before; screenshot, and report the player here on the forums with evidence (in a spoiler) or in a pm to staff+?


That would be a lot of admin and player reports when really we can just eliminate the confusion and waste of time by adding specifications to the rule.

We already have.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:37 am 
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Just to be clear - the admin on at the time should have made the person with those spays stop. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that they were designed to offend.

I don't see the rule being the problem.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:17 am 
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Jimmah wrote:
Just to be clear - the admin on at the time should have made the person with those spays stop. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that they were designed to offend.

I don't see the rule being the problem.


The rule is too general.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:37 am 
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PrimeLGTV wrote:
Jimmah wrote:
Just to be clear - the admin on at the time should have made the person with those spays stop. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that they were designed to offend.

I don't see the rule being the problem.


The rule is too general.


If you feel the spray is disturbing or offending, you report it.. It's not harder than that, and if the admin won't do anything about it, go higher in the chain of command..
It doesn't matter if the rule say "No disturbing sprays" or "No porn, gore, genitals, bloody, nasty, privates, organs... etc" If it is disturbing to just a few, the spray shouldn't be there. Just let whoever have the spray know that they are breaking one of the "General" rules of the server, and should change it, or leave.. Tell them that they could get banned for using it... If not, make a damn ban request, it's not that hard.
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I'd like the promotion, the paycheck and parking spot. But I don’t really want to be in charge of anything.

#Wolfie4Staff2k17/2k18
<05:09:34> "Wolfie" was removed from server group "Supporter" by "Kharn".
<05:09:39> "Wolfie" was added to server group "Staff" by "Kharn".

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PrimeLGTV wrote:
Jimmah wrote:
Just to be clear - the admin on at the time should have made the person with those spays stop. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that they were designed to offend.

I don't see the rule being the problem.


The rule is too general.

The point you're making, is the exact opposite of what we discussed in our meeting. The old rule stated that no intimate parts of the body were allowed to be shown. What this "general" rule does, is allows admin to make even more decisions about what can and can't be on our server.

Example:

With the prior rule still in effect, a picture of a dead child would technically be allowed as it wouldn't show intimate parts of the body

With the new rule, it would be considered disturbing and a punishable offence.



If there is any admin who doesn't find something "disturbing" but we as a community do, talk to them and let them know that it offends you and would like action taken. If that doesn't work, make a complaint against them.

Giving our administration freedom to determine rules the way they'd like prevents players from strongarming us into being "technically correct". With these general rules, they are completely up for interpretation from the people who enforce the rules! We as a community should have a general idea of what is considered disturbing, so if something does bother you, the admin won't address it, and you wish to make a change, the report is the best way. With a report the higher ups can make a decision about if it is considered disturbing or not, and can cast a final decision to be used as a precedent for everyone!


TL;DR

The rule was changed to be more general on purpose, and it overall is a wonderful thing.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:51 am 
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Wolfie wrote:
PrimeLGTV wrote:
Jimmah wrote:
Just to be clear - the admin on at the time should have made the person with those spays stop. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that they were designed to offend.

I don't see the rule being the problem.


The rule is too general.


If you feel the spray is disturbing or offending, you report it.. It's not harder than that, and if the admin won't do anything about it, go higher in the chain of command..
It doesn't matter if the rule say "No disturbing sprays" or "No porn, gore, genitals, bloody, nasty, privates, organs... etc" If it is disturbing to just a few, the spray shouldn't be there. Just let whoever have the spray know that they are breaking one of the "General" rules of the server, and should change it, or leave.. Tell them that they could get banned for using it... If not, make a damn ban request, it's not that hard.


The rules should be specific as they were before. There is always someone who will find that shit disturbing and some people don't use their common sense to figure that out. Thus, what is disturbing and what is not, must be specified.


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