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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:21 pm 
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I still think you guys are missing the point. People who simply want to bash a recruit their comments wouldn't even be allowed. And to the people saying just vote no well what about our members who are never active but yet only get on to vote yes on all recruits or vote no. What if the comments were only visible the day the voting booth was opened? Would that solve some of the influencing you all think would happen? Is that even a solution? I'm just throwing out ideas. Thanks to everyone who's commented so far


I have an idea. Only allow Elite and Veterans or just Veterans to comment constructively on Recruit applications. Members can still vote, but it leaves a little room for people to say "Ok, a vetted community member has input on this particular recruit."

That make sense?


I thought of that as well

dumb idea, members are the most active group of players there are. you will often see 5 members online for every 1 veteran. The group that has the most contact with recruits is always the newish members

I disagree however if this did happen my vote would be Elite/Vet+. Wait a second, we gave a board for these things seems like everyone has forgotten Oops ?.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:12 pm 
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Synthic wrote:
Tricky wrote:
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GoopSauce wrote:
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I still think you guys are missing the point. People who simply want to bash a recruit their comments wouldn't even be allowed. And to the people saying just vote no well what about our members who are never active but yet only get on to vote yes on all recruits or vote no. What if the comments were only visible the day the voting booth was opened? Would that solve some of the influencing you all think would happen? Is that even a solution? I'm just throwing out ideas. Thanks to everyone who's commented so far


I have an idea. Only allow Elite and Veterans or just Veterans to comment constructively on Recruit applications. Members can still vote, but it leaves a little room for people to say "Ok, a vetted community member has input on this particular recruit."

That make sense?


I thought of that as well

dumb idea, members are the most active group of players there are. you will often see 5 members online for every 1 veteran. The group that has the most contact with recruits is always the newish members

I disagree however if this did happen my vote would be Elite/Vet+. Wait a second, we gave a board for these things seems like everyone has forgotten Oops ?.

you cant disagree with a fact

To be fair, I’d agree with Synthic on that one.

And don’t really see how I’m missing the point? Your counter argument literally loops back to one of my points.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:29 pm 
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This is a great idea and I don't understand any of your counter arguments.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:47 pm 
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Think of it this way;

So you’ve posted this idea for members of the clan to see. Why? Well your only motive would be that there’s people who have gotten into the clan that you don’t think should be here, yes? If your motive if different then your idea makes little to no logical sense because the system would otherwise be fine. So provided that what I stated is your motive, you’ve made this known to apparent toxic members asking them to change letting in toxic members. Seems a little counter intuitive? Just a thought.

Another thing I point out is your explicit term usage of “influencing the vote,” which is something we’ve beeen trying to prevent. We don’t want you to discuss your votes because your vote is your own. Now you would post on an app explicitly trying to get people to vote one way or another. It’s easy to post in a constructive manner how negative the terrible circumstance of the recruits ban was before he got accepted so people don’t vote for him. But in reality the ban was years ago and the recruit is actually a good guy. Do Staff deny a comment like that? “Nah we hadn’t seen him like this so we deny it” but really it’s a fabricated truth but truth nonetheless, so is denying it right? No we’d probably need to accept it. Pretty easy to rack in those no votes towards an otherwise cool guy, or even the other way around, yes for a really toxic guy.

See my point? I disagree with this idea but I don’t neccessarily disagree that the system could be changed. I just don’t think this is the best way to do it. You could counter argue that my example against it could be said for admin apps, but really, no, because only Staff look at those and not a whole community voting.

@ Central; we already evaluate recruits if they get banned during recruitment and usually deny them.

Entirely what was said here is true.

This is a more way of being really judgemental in some ways. Like Matt said, you'd comment good things about a really toxic player like Pro Hop :] and this is not we want as a community, and it's because you like them. You make decisions to benefit the community, not just because you like guy.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:37 pm 
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Only in a fascist state is more open access to information (positive or negative) a bad thing, just sayin


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Princess Strawberry wrote:
Only in a fascist state is more open access to information (positive or negative) a bad thing, just sayin

Are you really that oppressed that you can’t message me on Steam and tell me your opinion?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:28 am 
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Only in a fascist state is more open access to information (positive or negative) a bad thing, just sayin


matt is a fascist, you heard it here first.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:11 am 
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Caboose wrote:
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Only in a fascist state is more open access to information (positive or negative) a bad thing, just sayin


matt is a fascist, you heard it here first.


Confirmed. Matt care to comment?

Anyways I thought this was about choosing one virgin recruit each month for sacrificial stuff.
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This thread is fucking toasty on how hot it is.

Im super against this because some of you already shit post and act like assholes on name change threads. The membership applications are fine the way they are. Not cluttered with "Nah hes a stupid gay" or "What a nice guy". Your votes are what tells Staff+ that you like the dude, so why let you comment on it? Your comments are kinda useless to the point. If the app gets a lot of yes', why would we need to worry about what is said about the dude? If the guy is known for spamming/being a dick he wont get in.

The only thing this will do is open up an area for you all to release your personal feelings against the guy instead of how he will benefit/take away from, the community.
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SemiAutoNoob wrote:
Anyways I thought this was about choosing one virgin recruit each month for sacrificial stuff.


Fine I'll do it this time.
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