When we voted on this rule at the admin meeting it was about time. It took too much time to individually warn 25+ T's and it took away from gameplay. We voted it in in order to progress the round and get to the games faster.

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This... unfortunately, with the rule set, killing for moving your mouse a millimeter is accepted under the rules, and using the "asshole" rule is way too objective to apply in this situation. Again it only awards fragwhores... I understand why a large chunk of EgN members, especially CT-majority players, would like this rule... But in my experience, the general server population (the most important part of our server), does not like it either.



"AFK Freeze warning for one, two, three, four, five" takes about 2 seconds to say.

I primarily played T before the warning rule was implemented actually. Nowadays I play both about as much tbh. I feel like not having a warning rule is healthy for the overall gameplay, both for Ts and CTs.

only if youre playing for kills & competition lmao... NEEZON lol

people that want to play the server and have fun and not end up all sweaty dont like the rule

This is a bias statement lol.

Anyway; what exactly are you proposing? Everyone on this thread has voiced their dislike for the rule, but what are you asking to come of it? You titled it "revision" but there's nothing to revise it to. As said, these are admin meeting changes, changes that y'all make and write. If you want it changed it likely won't happen until then. This is the reason we do them 3-4 times a year so y'all can see what works and what doesn't.

Nah man I know it may not seem like it, but I honestly just play on the JB server to chill out. I rarely ever actually try hard, because that's just not that enjoyable in the long-term. I just find it annoying when rounds get arbitrarily lengthened due to people unnecessarily delaying, but to the border of not knowing whether they are intentionally doing so, or whether they legitimately deserve a warning, etc. As said above, I simply feel more choice in shaping the atmosphere of the server should be put in the hands of the players, and largely pubbers, as they make up a majority of the player-base.

I have probably been saved by the warning rule a decent amount of times myself, but it feels as though the warning rule makes some rules nearly useless. Such as AFK freeze for example. With an AFK freeze order, and the warning rule in effect, the Ts can freely look around until someone bothers to warn them for it. Now this isn't a big problem if 1 person does it in a round, but if like 50% of the players for example just don't bother properly listening to and following orders properly anymore, I consider that an issue.

Maybe there is a rule that could be made that would achieve what the intention of the warning rule is. However, as is, it definitely feels more restricting and annoying than helpful, in the grand scheme of things. It seems like a rule with good intentions, but not the desired effecct. As I thus stated, I feel like "Don't be an asshole" adequately covers killing people for accidentally taking a small step forwards on a freeze order, missclicking jump, unintentionally moving your mouse slightly on an AFK freeze order, etc.

What's wrong with estabishing a general consensus before a meeting takes place? There are plenty of ways to revise it imo.

Any player who has been playing JB for a significant amount of time can use the warning rule to give themselves a really strong advantage. Likewise, any CT who has the same experience can recognize this behavior and predict rebelling. I think it separates veterans from novices in a way that's friendly to newcomers. I like having it.

It's also nice being able to eat a sandwich and not get killed wgen you bump the mouse

Like i just said, before the warning and meta gaming rules i was mostly a T instead of CT. Nowdays the wardens never know the rules and i have to spend most my time going over their mistakes, so instead i just take warden to even out the teams. Being a T used to be more of a challenge even when you weren't rebelling. Had to pay attention and it was a skill you improved the more you play. Nowadays i just dont think its the same kind of experience.

Tl;dr

I already told that as a CT its not really a problem, just an inconvenience, but as a T it kills a lot of the fun for me and makes skills i spent a long time getting pretty useless so i dont play it nearly as much anymore.

i still thought everyone wanted to lynch the warning rule.
Tbh you're gonna have to suck it up till the next admin meeting,

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