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 Post subject: Hate Speech
PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:02 am 
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So, I didn't know this was a controversial subject, but what's your opinion on hate speech, and whether it's the same as free speech or not.

Was brought up in a heated discussion in-class. Wondering what your opinions are.

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 Post subject: Re: Hate Speech
PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:18 pm 
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I'm a big free speech guy and i think hate speech should'it be a thing. I do think incitement of violence should still be a thing and also that one where u cant yell fire for no reason in a crowded place where ppl could be trampled or hurt.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:47 pm 
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We have the right to free speech. And I plan on keeping that right. But hate speech is a no go. There is no need for it.

But the problem is, is that many people consider some offensive language as hate speech. When really it's either a joke or someone's opinion.
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Y S0 S3R10US wrote:
We have the right to free speech. And I plan on keeping that right. But hate speech is a no go. There is no need for it.

But the problem is, is that many people consider some offensive language as hate speech. When really it's either a joke or someone's opinion.[/color]

you mean legally or morally?
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Mr. Simplistic wrote:
Y S0 S3R10US wrote:
We have the right to free speech. And I plan on keeping that right. But hate speech is a no go. There is no need for it.

But the problem is, is that many people consider some offensive language as hate speech. When really it's either a joke or someone's opinion.[/color]

you mean legally or morally?

Morally, I don't know what the law says about it.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:50 pm 
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Y S0 S3R10US wrote:
Mr. Simplistic wrote:
Y S0 S3R10US wrote:
We have the right to free speech. And I plan on keeping that right. But hate speech is a no go. There is no need for it.

But the problem is, is that many people consider some offensive language as hate speech. When really it's either a joke or someone's opinion.[/color]

you mean legally or morally?

Morally, I don't know what the law says about it.

morally i agree with you but do u think it should also be enforced by law?
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Mr. Simplistic wrote:
Y S0 S3R10US wrote:
Mr. Simplistic wrote:
Y S0 S3R10US wrote:
We have the right to free speech. And I plan on keeping that right. But hate speech is a no go. There is no need for it.

But the problem is, is that many people consider some offensive language as hate speech. When really it's either a joke or someone's opinion.[/color]

you mean legally or morally?

Morally, I don't know what the law says about it.

morally i agree with you but do u think it should also be enforced by law?

I don't think it should, because really it can't be enforced. Like unless there are officers everywhere listening. They can't enforce a hate speech law.
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My view of it is, you should always be allowed to have different opinions, and you should always be allowed to voice those opinions, even if they're opinions about specific people. While it's a bit of a dick move to call somebody out about, say, their looks, I think I should still be allowed to criticize people, places, groups, etc. Even those same touchy subjects such as peoples' looks, fashion, etc., should be allowed to be talked about.

However, I don't think people necessarily need to be assholes about it either. As opposed to say, calling someone a "fucking retard" or something like calling somebody a "dirty [insert racial slur of choice here]", you can still voice your opinions without being an ass about it. "I don't agree with your opinion about [blah]." I doubt people will stop insulting each other though. It's hard not to insult when things start getting heated. But, people should at least have some self control.

Whether there should be any punishments for hate speech or other distasteful speech, I think there already are. Companies are known for firing people for tweets, posts, etc. that are seen in bad taste. People have been publicly called out and ridiculed for that sort of stuff, and friendships have ended over it. Whether that's enough or too much, I don't know.... On the other hand, it's not unheard of for people to be fired for having a different opinion, or to have people ridicule them for it. I will say that it does look bad when somebody's career or the rest of their life gets jeopardized over one message/tweet/post, and that has been known to happen too.
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