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 Post subject: Ninja Stepping
PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:11 am 
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On the server order was given as 'Out of cell freeze' and I killed someone for ninja stepping. I was being told it was a freekill as it was only "out of cell freeze" and that means you may ninja step out of the cell, but as I believe there actually really isn't such thing as Ninja Stepping, and that it was only made up?

There are many ways to get around this... since there's nothing saying it's implied to NOT ninja step otherwise the warden allowed you to, or anything to say that you can actually ninja step anyway. People give the orders also with normally "No ninja-stepping", but does it really have to be done if there's actually no such thing as ninja stepping?

I'm not trying to be an ass or strict, I just want to clear something up.

Here are some ways to get around those:
1. "Out of Cell Freeze, Take one step out and freeze" - If a person does a ninja step, technically it is still taking one step out and freeze as it's just basically a big step, but still can be killed for it as some people may and then they say - "Did I tell you to ninja step". So when people do say that, why don't they say it for Out of Cell Freeze if they didn't still say they can ninja step or not?
2. "Out of Cell Freeze" - Person does a ninja step, not killed because no regular orders were given... Out of cell freeze is still an order, and even if ninja stepping was real, it wasn't specified that you can't and can ninja step so basically there are 2 ways it can go, you either get killed or you get spared.
3. "Out of cell freeze, take a step out, face the back of your cell and AFK Freeze" - Person does a ninja step, get's killed as wasn't specified that they were allowed to ninja step, but it also wasn't specified not to as well?

Basically I'm posting here to get a clarification on this.
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 Post subject: Re: Ninja Stepping
PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:23 am 
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As you said ninja step doesn't really exist. so the order was out of cell freeze, you cant make a person stay in their cell so what is the problem with him simply jumping out of their cell and freezing, at the time warden gave no order to take 1 step out or anything, they simply only said out of cell freeze. in that case you should've killed every t that was more than 1 step out of their cell if that's how your going to think of it. the out of cell order is given for those who are already out of their cell. it really says nothing to those in their cell. if he jumps out of his cell and freeze. well he is out of cell frozen its not like the took 1 step out then jumped and froze. and honestly if you are going to post anything on the forums you should complain about how your brother geeza was spamming chat even after people ask him to stop.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:34 am 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:02 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:03 pm 
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CharlieKelly wrote:

Read it already, and I'm being told that killing the person I killed for doing it was a freekill lmao.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:50 pm 
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As Kharn once said in a meeting a while back. It's not a step, it's a fucking jump.
You can kill them because there is no way in hell that it's a step, because it's a jump.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:27 pm 
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Seriously, ninja stepping isn't even a thing, js. The term wasn't even around not even a year ago. And if it's not said, why would they assume it's allowed? You said it's not in the rules, and nothing is implied. And if they assume that, then doesn't that make your own argument invalid?


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As Kharn once said in a meeting a while back. It's not a step, it's a fucking jump.
You can kill them because there is no way in hell that it's a step, because it's a jump.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:58 pm 
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matt has already said you can kill for them taking a ninja step when they aren't supposed to. /lock
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