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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:30 am 
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I feel you, I just think that there is a larger underlying issue within this.

Razor was never meant to be the primary map, I think that constantly playing it sort of demoralizes the community and creates these issues as a result.

We can sit on the forums and debate small details forever, but the best solution I can see is people going further out of their comfort zones and trying different maps.

A bit unrealistic to think that; not that it's a bad idea, but we're already built enough around razor. Won't change.

With that mindset I suppose it is.
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Young Lean wrote:
Needy wrote:
Young Lean wrote:
I feel you, I just think that there is a larger underlying issue within this.

Razor was never meant to be the primary map, I think that constantly playing it sort of demoralizes the community and creates these issues as a result.

We can sit on the forums and debate small details forever, but the best solution I can see is people going further out of their comfort zones and trying different maps.

A bit unrealistic to think that; not that it's a bad idea, but we're already built enough around razor. Won't change.

With that mindset I suppose it is.
Anything is possible if we put forth the effort :^)

Razor wont go away because 2 reasons imo
1. All the randoms have the map already so they join and give us a population (so when pop dies it always goes back there)
2. Everyone knows it (especially randoms) and its a pretty balanced map so when half the server wants a new map they will spit the vote between 2 or 3 new maps while the randoms all know jb so they will pool together and vote it in with the other half of votes.

The best solution imo would be to nake it so after the first vote a second vote pops up with just the top 2 voted maps that way the ppl who dont want Razor dont always have their vote split
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Mr. Simplistic wrote:
Young Lean wrote:
Needy wrote:
Young Lean wrote:
I feel you, I just think that there is a larger underlying issue within this.

Razor was never meant to be the primary map, I think that constantly playing it sort of demoralizes the community and creates these issues as a result.

We can sit on the forums and debate small details forever, but the best solution I can see is people going further out of their comfort zones and trying different maps.

A bit unrealistic to think that; not that it's a bad idea, but we're already built enough around razor. Won't change.

With that mindset I suppose it is.
Anything is possible if we put forth the effort :^)

Razor wont go away because 2 reasons imo
1. All the randoms have the map already so they join and give us a population (so when pop dies it always goes back there)
2. Everyone knows it (especially randoms) and its a pretty balanced map so when half the server wants a new map they will spit the vote between 2 or 3 new maps while the randoms all know jb so they will pool together and vote it in with the other half of votes.

The best solution imo would be to nake it so after the first vote a second vote pops up with just the top 2 voted maps that way the ppl who dont want Razor dont always have their vote split


I really like the discussion about the map/vote changes but can we keep this on topic to Simon Says? viewtopic.php?f=107&t=30179&p=293012#p293012
That topic has some discussion already about having an event where map selection is up for change.
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You see, I don't approve of wardens doing these type of orders which I would consider "Wordplay" or just being tricky to the Ts. That's why I literally don't do any of these types of orders when I'm warden, to avoid this exact thing. It's best to just give honest, straightforward and easy to understand orders to reduce frustration, and to maximize fun!!!

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Just to be honest it’s kinda assholish to Simon says freeze after saying Simon says crouch, do 360, etc then killing the Ts who froze.

To put another spin on this debate, if Simon says to jump, then Simon says do 360s, and then Simon says to freeze what happens?? Seems unreasonable to kill if a T stopped jumping.
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Just to be honest it’s kinda assholish to Simon says freeze after saying Simon says crouch, do 360, etc then killing the Ts who froze.

To put another spin on this debate, if Simon says to jump, then Simon says do 360s, and then Simon says to freeze what happens?? Seems unreasonable to kill if a T stopped jumping.


A T that's jumping is moving on the Z axis though and not frozen? I'm not sure why it's unreasonable to kill someone who didn't follow the order
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I mean a general response to alot of the viewpoints shared in this thread: Isn't the point of simon says to try and catch people out in the first place?


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I think "simon says freeze" and "simon says stop jumping" are two completely different things.


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