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 Post subject: Re: Stacking plugin
PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:31 am 
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Minigames has no-block in it. Already scary as it is. CT will be dead if they had that in the server. It would be 10x easier to rebel.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:07 am 
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So lets look into this with an open perspective for a second.

So if we do implement something like this, many things will change. The main thing being "Skilled knife fights will become glitched unskilled knife fights." The reason why we like to keep block on for T's and CT's, is due to the challenge it adds to back stab a CT. Lets be honest, its already so easy to rebel in Jailbreak, so adding this challenge is a much needed thing.

Another aspect to look at, is you will cause a ripple of altercations of CT's running through T's. Now, Kharn has explained to the community that we don't have a particular baiting rule, besides CT's being on heads. (Yes this will seem like it will solve the CT's being on T's heads, but everyone finds ways to bend the rules/cause trouble so it wont rally solve anything tbh.) So then T's will have a bigger reason to knife CT's but again, Kharn stated that if you knife a CT, you are rebelling no matter what. Play the game like you would be in an actual prison.

Another thing is that I'm, sure they dont want to add a "no block" plugin for the same reason stated above. Notice how we dont jack our servers up with tons of plugins and sounds? We mainly do that because we love our Vanilla server. Its rare to see a fine tuned vanilla server thats populated. All these other servers have so many plugins, and it also takes them years to load in. Now I know this plugin wont increase loading time by much, but it still would take away from the sense of "realism" we try to display on our servers.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:07 am 
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Mr.GoldGames wrote:
So lets look into this with an open perspective for a second.

So if we do implement something like this, many things will change. The main thing being "Skilled knife fights will become glitched unskilled knife fights." The reason why we like to keep block on for T's and CT's, is due to the challenge it adds to back stab a CT. Lets be honest, its already so easy to rebel in Jailbreak, so adding this challenge is a much needed thing.

Another aspect to look at, is you will cause a ripple of altercations of CT's running through T's. Now, Kharn has explained to the community that we don't have a particular baiting rule, besides CT's being on heads. (Yes this will seem like it will solve the CT's being on T's heads, but everyone finds ways to bend the rules/cause trouble so it wont rally solve anything tbh.) So then T's will have a bigger reason to knife CT's but again, Kharn stated that if you knife a CT, you are rebelling no matter what. Play the game like you would be in an actual prison.

Another thing is that I'm, sure they dont want to add a "no block" plugin for the same reason stated above. Notice how we dont jack our servers up with tons of plugins and sounds? We mainly do that because we love our Vanilla server. Its rare to see a fine tuned vanilla server thats populated. All these other servers have so many plugins, and it also takes them years to load in. Now I know this plugin wont increase loading time by much, but it still would take away from the sense of "realism" we try to display on our servers.

Thats just my response on the whole thing. If you enjoyed it, please click the like button and subscribe. If you made it to the end of the video, type pineapple juice in the chat, and tell me what you think! Thanks for watching!

I agree with GoldGames, although I disagree with the fact we need this. The fact is we don't. People in our servers always try in finding loops in the rules, exploiting rules and even abusing. When this warning rule started to get enforced, we had a lot of people abusing this rule, and it had to be sorted fast, and now you don't much see it being abused at all (well not when I'm there). By using this, CTs could possibly try force the Ts to rebel by standing inside them baiting the T to knife him, that is being an ass which would increase the abuse of the ass rule by quite a lot.

It's like you're knifing, and that CT walks into your knife on purpose to kill you, even though in reason you shouldn't be knifing at all, but it's also partly on the CT's fault, and you can call that not playing your role as a CT. Forcing a T to rebel, forcing them to attack you is not playing your role, and this plugin would increase CT's attempting in making you rebel.

We don't really need this plugin, as our server as good as it is, maybe a few improvements now and then, but I don't think this should be added partly the fact that speaking as an admin, we would have an increased amount of people abusing this, and even though it's or duty to enforce rules, and to make sure no one abuses rules, we don't need another thing causing them to abuse the plugin in the first place.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:10 am 
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Ah yes make it even harder on ct's -_-
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:50 pm 
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The case rests.


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I would delete this post but I have no idea how to work this.


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Please avoid double posting on your thread.

Guns aren't the big concern here. If you say that they can shoot the T's before the get to them, why would we need a no block plugin if they cant reach the CT's in the first place?

I dont know, maybe a Staff can shed some light on the topic.
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The gamemode “Jailbreak” isn’t necessary to make everything easier to rebel but more about T’s obeying warden orders and try to be the last T alive to get LR. Mainly why we had added the “warning” rule that prevents CT for being triggerhappy, only care for the KD. So, with this new rule can make it more fun you could say.
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