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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 6:08 pm 
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Admin meeting was today; here's what happened in the record 4 and a half hour meeting.

Went over all JB rules and admin expectations. Answered any questions and clarified all rules. Then, we voted on changes.


Admin expectation changes
Elites can target Members (excluding ban)

Mass Freekill (MFK) results in a permanent CT ban instead of a permanent server ban - Note: Staff+ Will look into granting Veterans permission to offline CT ban

Rules changes
A freeday may not be given revised to The highest ranking admin may grant a freeday during the first round of the map

No excessive wardays revised to No excessive wardays (No more than 2 wardays in a row)

Simon says is over when a new game to play is defined. revised to Simon says is over when a new game to play is stated.

Do not bait (give guns to Ts). revised to Do not give weapons/grenades to Terrorists

Prisoners (T) cannot be forced to face a certain direction for extended periods of time. revised to Terrorists cannot be forced to face a certain direction for longer than one minute

Secret weapons NOT picked up by T's must remain where they spawn. revised to Secret weapons/abilities NOT picked up by T's must remain where they spawn.

New rules

A warday may only be called in 2 or less adjacent locations (CT rule)

Use sprays only to transport terrorists (CT rule)

Lead CT opens cells on warday unless cells auto-open (CT rule)

A Terrorist granted Last Request is only rebelling if they wound a CT without reason (T rule)

Clarifications:
Joke day/Opinionated Days are always refusable

Misc.
Paradise prison map removed

These changes will come into effect June 1st. These changes were voted upon by your very own Jailbreak admins. Follow-up Admin meetings are not to change anything, simply to cover what was changed, and review the rules, etc. More info here


Attendance
These are the only admins who were credited for full attendance.

Link
Marz
SexySimonSays
EagleBby
toni
Rias
Mikailmanco
indiglow
IamNaCl
mattlikespie
Phillip
Doldol


Any admin not on the above list will lose admin if they do not attend a follow up meeting.
Additional admins who attended part of the meeting (Will still lose admin!! (except Staff :P)):


Zachariah
Birthstone
Inori
Mozzie
Goopsauce
Ash
jjjjjj.jack
Needy
El_Xanatos
Ms. Guggy
Shya
Wolfie
Mr. Geeza
Cartoon Slays
Northside Shorty
Mr. GoldGames
Bourne
Mr. Kharn
Sinister
xnyc


Note: Eagle recorded the entire meeting. Look forward to a PM from him with the recording(s).
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 6:56 pm 
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oi why you trying to take my job from me

I only had 2 hours available, there's really no reason meetings should go past that long, we can do much better than that. Monthly meetings cover every server and rarely go over 2 hours. This meeting covered admin guidelines and one server (JB) and went over 4 hours? Again, we can do a lot better, Fortune 500 companies wouldn't ever have a meeting that took up more than half a workday, we shouldn't either.
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Birthstone wrote:
oi why you trying to take my job from me

I only had 2 hours available, there's really no reason meetings should go past that long, we can do much better than that. Monthly meetings cover every server and rarely go over 2 hours. This meeting covered admin guidelines and one server (JB) and went over 4 hours? Again, we can do a lot better.

I've been here for over 3 years and this was the shortest admin meeting I've ever attended. Sorry for taking your job but you left :3
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 7:11 pm 
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Birthstone wrote:
oi why you trying to take my job from me

I only had 2 hours available, there's really no reason meetings should go past that long, we can do much better than that. Monthly meetings cover every server and rarely go over 2 hours. This meeting covered admin guidelines and one server (JB) and went over 4 hours? Again, we can do a lot better.

I've been here for over 3 years and this was the shortest admin meeting I've ever attended. Sorry for taking your job but you left :3


I've been here for about 4 years (plus or minus a few months) and I've attended lightning-fast admin meetings. A long meeting isn't necessarily a good meeting. People have shit to do, especially during finals week (myself included).

I'm updating my thread with the info from this one / Eagle's eventual recordings. Also the official JB rules still need clarification and changes, you do that and I'll fine-tune my summary, deal?
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Birthstone wrote:
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Birthstone wrote:
oi why you trying to take my job from me

I only had 2 hours available, there's really no reason meetings should go past that long, we can do much better than that. Monthly meetings cover every server and rarely go over 2 hours. This meeting covered admin guidelines and one server (JB) and went over 4 hours? Again, we can do a lot better.

I've been here for over 3 years and this was the shortest admin meeting I've ever attended. Sorry for taking your job but you left :3


I've been here for about 4 years (plus or minus a few months) and I've attended lightning-fast admin meetings. A long meeting isn't necessarily a good meeting. People have shit to do, especially during finals week (myself included).

I'm updating my thread with the info from this one / Eagle's eventual recordings. Also the official JB rules still need clarification and changes, you do that and I'll fine-tune my summary, deal?

I mean if you were actually there/listen to the recordings I don't see any way that that meeting could have been (significantly) quicker. And considering you weren't, I made this.
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I mean if you were actually there/listen to the recordings I don't see any way that that meeting could have been (significantly) quicker. And considering you weren't, I made this.


There's always room for improvement. Just because we've always done something a certain way doesn't mean that's the right way to do things. Like I said, no business would ever expect employees to sit through a full 4 and half hour meeting, so why should a video gaming community?

And I was there, as I said (multiple times now) I only had time for about 2 hours, which is more than reasonable to expect from people on a Sunday afternoon.
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mattlikespie wrote:
[size=150]Admin expectation changes
Elites can target Members (excluding ban)

Mass Freekill (MFK) results in a permanent CT ban instead of a permanent server ban - Note: Staff+ Will look into granting Veterans permission to offline CT ban



Ctban for MFK? Why didn't you rather make it that 3-5 kills is ctban, more than that is perm ban? Because some people are going to MFK on purpose, and take a ctban.

Why? this means they will be able to unban cbans? I don't like.

Anyways just me being overly critical. maybe? still I have my reasons.
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Bourne wrote:
mattlikespie wrote:
[size=150]Admin expectation changes
Elites can target Members (excluding ban)

Mass Freekill (MFK) results in a permanent CT ban instead of a permanent server ban - Note: Staff+ Will look into granting Veterans permission to offline CT ban



Ctban for MFK? Why didn't you rather make it that 3-5 kills is ctban, more than that is perm ban? Because some people are going to MFK on purpose, and take a ctban.

Why? this means they will be able to unban cbans? I don't like.

Anyways just me being overly critical. maybe? still I have my reasons.


The server dies slower this way, not sure what you mean by "this means they will be able to unban ctbans?".
A permanent ctban would be treated the same as a perm, must be appealed on the forums.
Not sure what reasons you could have behind objecting to that, you're not supposed to perm ban people just so you can be satisfied because they pissed you off, we're doing it because they're disruptive as a CT and it's a lot harder to be disruptive as a T.
Honestly I think it'd be better if we went back and changed every perm ban for MFK to a perm CT ban.


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So I take it if Cartoon and I sit through the next follow up meeting we are admins? I wanted to join because I really wanted to listen in on the changes to the community.
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