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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:24 pm 
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won't the removal of ranks make it harder to maintain order and a somewhat structured community? and the whole groups idea could turn sideways pretty easily. Like I don't mind getting rid of the ranks if it helps the community, but I can only see it creating more disorder.

That was my concern as well but I think their intention as of now is to just get the community together more uniformed considering our lack in members as of lately.

My thoughts were if people found they had no set attachments to the community they would lose the interest of being here

But as far as the retired rank goes there are still a good amount of ex members around contributing. And this will also stir away members from having the mentality of “leaving” rather they are always here.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:53 pm 
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Y S0 S3R10US wrote:
won't the removal of ranks make it harder to maintain order and a somewhat structured community? and the whole groups idea could turn sideways pretty easily. Like I don't mind getting rid of the ranks if it helps the community, but I can only see it creating more disorder.

Exactly this.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:22 pm 
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I feel like those who don't even contribute anything to the clan like game play or forum/server activity should not have the same privileges.


Do you have a reason for that? The current system is flawed in the same way. Also how do we measure contribution? Isn't better for EgN to be open and welcoming and allow people that want to participate to well.... participate?
So without letting them be arbitrarily judged 1st, a process which was unfair and pretty cruel actually.

When Staff+ was deciding who got to join almost no EgN members posted in the apps, indicating (almost) everyone was neutral no one either cared enough to post.

The new system just logically follows really.

How is it logically better? Why is double clanning allowed now?

Idk man either you have a serious problem with reading comprehension, you're just not paying attention or you're intentionally mischaracterizing what I said.

Either way it's really problematic because it makes it just impossible to talk to you about anything really or take into account anything you say.

Please reread my post so that you can hopefully recognise and correct your mistakes.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:36 pm 
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Do feel like this will hurt the dedication coming from some of our members who are staying around to support the community. Its like hey you guys stuck around now we can just throw you in the same group with people that left and don't care anymore. We should of kept registered user and went back to members voting. Then its more hands on with the community like before and staff can still have applications to go through.

So far from what i got of this is if you make an account then your a member. If this is the case, then I for sure see people coming around to cause problems.

I would also like to mention that ever since the new clan opened up (especially since they're jb based) I've noticed ex members coming around again. Feels like we're opening back up just to let others attack us again. Especially if we're starting from scratch with a new website.

I really do like the idea of no ranks basically but do feel down the road we should have registered user then community member.
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Do feel like this will hurt the dedication coming from some of our members who are staying around to support the community. Its like hey you guys stuck around now we can just throw you in the same group with people that left and don't care anymore. We should of kept registered user and went back to members voting. Then its more hands on with the community like before and staff can still have applications to go through.

So far from what i got of this is if you make an account then your a member. If this is the case, then I for sure see people coming around to cause problems.

I would also like to mention that ever since the new clan opened up (especially since they're jb based) I've noticed ex members coming around again. Feels like we're opening back up just to let others attack us again. Especially if we're starting from scratch with a new website.

I really do like the idea of no ranks basically but do feel down the road we should have registered user then community member.

I do feel there should be some restrictions to separate troll(ish) behavior and actually members that want to contribute
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:44 pm 
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Needy wrote:
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Do feel like this will hurt the dedication coming from some of our members who are staying around to support the community. Its like hey you guys stuck around now we can just throw you in the same group with people that left and don't care anymore. We should of kept registered user and went back to members voting. Then its more hands on with the community like before and staff can still have applications to go through.

So far from what i got of this is if you make an account then your a member. If this is the case, then I for sure see people coming around to cause problems.

I would also like to mention that ever since the new clan opened up (especially since they're jb based) I've noticed ex members coming around again. Feels like we're opening back up just to let others attack us again. Especially if we're starting from scratch with a new website.

I really do like the idea of no ranks basically but do feel down the road we should have registered user then community member.

I do feel there should be some restrictions to separate troll(ish) behavior and actually members that want to contribute


Exactly main point right there.
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Link wrote:
Needy wrote:
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Do feel like this will hurt the dedication coming from some of our members who are staying around to support the community. Its like hey you guys stuck around now we can just throw you in the same group with people that left and don't care anymore. We should of kept registered user and went back to members voting. Then its more hands on with the community like before and staff can still have applications to go through.

So far from what i got of this is if you make an account then your a member. If this is the case, then I for sure see people coming around to cause problems.

I would also like to mention that ever since the new clan opened up (especially since they're jb based) I've noticed ex members coming around again. Feels like we're opening back up just to let others attack us again. Especially if we're starting from scratch with a new website.

I really do like the idea of no ranks basically but do feel down the road we should have registered user then community member.

I do feel there should be some restrictions to separate troll(ish) behavior and actually members that want to contribute


Exactly main point right there.


I think the idea is that the "staff" would act more like moderators to stamp this kind thing out.
Which is pretty much the way things are now too (ie, non members can make comments on a lot of stuff)


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Link wrote:
Do feel like this will hurt the dedication coming from some of our members who are staying around to support the community. Its like hey you guys stuck around now we can just throw you in the same group with people that left and don't care anymore. We should of kept registered user and went back to members voting. Then its more hands on with the community like before and staff can still have applications to go through.

So far from what i got of this is if you make an account then your a member. If this is the case, then I for sure see people coming around to cause problems.

I would also like to mention that ever since the new clan opened up (especially since they're jb based) I've noticed ex members coming around again. Feels like we're opening back up just to let others attack us again. Especially if we're starting from scratch with a new website.

I really do like the idea of no ranks basically but do feel down the road we should have registered user then community member.

Exactly. "Merry Christmas guys! Now we're gonna make everyone the same type of member as you! We'll call it, Community Member." The idea is horrible.


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Think of it like Facebook or Steam. Anyone who registered for an account on Facebook becomes a Facebook user. Those who are recognized, popular, credible, verified users of Facebook are the ones who post more frequently, contribute more to the their posts and groups they are in, have more detailed profiles, etc. Steam uses profile levels and you can display badges, change your background, etc, and use it as a platform to communicate with your friends, buy and play games, or really whatever you want that the platform offers. We'll all Steam users. EgN is moving to be the same way. There will be those who want to make the most of the platform, and will be recognized as such, and others who make an account and don't really do much with it. Those who want to troll? We'll ban them or review their content to make sure it's inline with some baseline rules set to respect everyone's rights to the service. EgN becomes that platform to make groups into unexplored areas, branch into games that might require a particular structure, or put up new services for people to enjoyed without having to make a commitment. Some people will want to make a commitment, make this just like their Facebook, and those guys it'll be obvious.
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