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| Author: | Wildthang94 [ Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Restrictions |
So today as a t I was being forced to play simon says. The following order was given "simon says crouching is now restricted" and then the foloowing order was "simon says all ts crouch" Everyone who was standing was then killed even though crouching was restricted. Dyno the warden that was giving orders said that the all ts crouch order overrides the crouch restriction. As long as I have been on this server, off and on, this has never been accurate. I would just like some clarification so that im not killed everytime i do it the way I am used to doing it. |
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| Author: | Young Lean [ Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Restrictions |
The wardens latest order will always take priority over earlier orders. However I have seen it a lot in JB and it comes across as blatant word play, I personally don't think it should be allowed. Kinda just plays into the whole "get the t's to bottom of cell stairs and kill them" thing. |
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| Author: | Dyno [ Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Restrictions |
Just for a bit of clarification - I said it VERY CLEARLY, also said it VERY SLOWLY so everyone understood, it's Simon Says, I won't say anything more on this yet, but will say more later. |
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| Author: | North [ Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Restrictions |
Young Lean wrote: The wardens latest order will always take priority over earlier orders. However I have seen it a lot in JB and it comes across as blatant word play, I personally don't think it should be allowed. Kinda just plays into the whole "get the t's to bottom of cell stairs and kill them" thing. If anything I believe this should be considered extreme wordplay. And I’ve never even heard about last order is prioritized over the other ones, just like regular orders aren’t either. |
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| Author: | Quake [ Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Restrictions |
Dyno wrote: Just for a bit of clarification - I said it VERY CLEARLY, also said it VERY SLOWLY so everyone understood, it's Simon Says, I won't say anything more on this yet, but will say more later. I was there, and Dyno said many times that it overrides the previous order, and the next round you still decided to not listen to the orders. |
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| Author: | Sunbro Solaire [ Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Restrictions |
So when you take into consideration that common sense rules over all, this order doesn't seem like a big deal. The problem I see with how you're understanding this whole "override the previous order" thing is that even after Dyno and the rest of us EXPLICITLY explained WHY and HOW it works with overriding orders, you still didn't seem to understand. At that point I 100% thought that you were just being a troll, but now it looks like you are genuinely confused. We not only explained it to you using common sense how an overriding order works, but he did it a second time for clarification, and gave the orders out VERY slowly. "All ts... Simon Says Jumping is restricted.. All ts.. Simon Says JUMPING. IS. RESTRIIICCTEEED" - Dyno "All ts simon says jump" Literally every single T jumps almost at once but you. You die. You complain. You make a forum post. Notice anything? |
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| Author: | Young Lean [ Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Restrictions |
Sunbro Solaire wrote: So when you take into consideration that common sense rules over all, this order doesn't seem like a big deal. The problem I see with how you're understanding this whole "override the previous order" thing is that even after Dyno and the rest of us EXPLICITLY explained WHY and HOW it works with overriding orders, you still didn't seem to understand. At that point I 100% thought that you were just being a troll, but now it looks like you are genuinely confused. We not only explained it to you using common sense how an overriding order works, but he did it a second time for clarification, and gave the orders out VERY slowly. "All ts... Simon Says Jumping is restricted.. All ts.. Simon Says JUMPING. IS. RESTRIIICCTEEED" - Dyno "All ts simon says jump" Literally every single T jumps almost at once but you. You die. You complain. You make a forum post. Notice anything? Ok so it looks like you are the one confused here. Orders are meant to progress the round with some sort of game, preferably more interactive for the T's. When you give an order like this that is meant to confuse T's that don't understand the rules perfectly, you are 1. using wordplay, and 2. being an asshole. Lets look back to 2 previous orders that were deemed wordplay from the server: Last T to my spray dies Rush to my spray, when I spray on the wall/floor/ceiling. Both of those rules seem like very common sense orders to me aswell, but what's wrong with them? They are meant to be a dick move and kill T's before they can play a game. |
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| Author: | Wildthang94 [ Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Restrictions |
The first time it happened even i said it was extreme word play. I stand by my firm belief that it is word play and i was freekilled two rounds in a row. I dont wish any punishment amongst dyno but i think clarification on the rules is in order. Also sunbro instead of sitting afk in cells while im being constantly freekilled why not do something |
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| Author: | mattlikespie [ Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Restrictions |
An order being "restricted" is only valid until another relevant order is given. If an order is "jumping is restricted" this means not to jump. A warden would say this to keep T's from jumping while they were transporting the T's so they don't jump (to control them) etc. If a warden was to give a jump order after that, then the Terrorists are expected to jump. You can think of "restricting" an order as "don't do this until told to do it otherwise." This has nothing to do with wordplay. |
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| Author: | Wildthang94 [ Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Restrictions |
alright thank you matt and others |
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