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| Author: | Young Lean [ Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | "Grey zone" regarding primary weapons |
Recently was slayed for killing a T holding a holstered primary at the start of the round, he was sitting in garage with the AWP from AWP window. I was told it was a grey zone whether or not it had to be unholstered, but as far as I can see it's pretty straight forward. Guards (CT): T's may not be warned if they have a primary weapon equipped Equipped - Supplied with the necessary items for a particular purpose. I would consider having a gun on your back to be equipped, even if you're not using it at that moment or holding it in your hands. If it were otherwise, I'd assume there would be a rule saying specifically that you have to warn them to drop it, like with secondary weapons. |
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| Author: | CharlieKelly [ Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Grey zone" regarding primary weapons |
As far as I'm aware, you have to have the primary unholstered to be considered rebelling. If you have it holstered you are not. Secondaries, as long as you aren't pointing it at a CT, then you are ok to have it out. Though I agree, "Equipped" is pretty vague in terms of counter-strike (and JB) lingo. Should probably update it to say "unholstered" |
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| Author: | cnnalin [ Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Grey zone" regarding primary weapons |
They probably didn't know this cause they didn't attend the admin meeting but I'm pretty sure the rule actually states that if a T has any primary holstered or Unholstered , they can be shot and killed! |
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| Author: | CharlieKelly [ Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Grey zone" regarding primary weapons |
cnnalin wrote: They probably didn't know this cause they didn't attend the admin meeting but I'm pretty sure the rule actually states that if a T has any primary holstered or Unholstered , they can be shot and killed! He quoted the rule as they are on the forums (and should be in-game): Young Lean wrote: Guards (CT): T's may not be warned if they have a primary weapon equipped Which is rule 59, in the CT section. Should just be clarified and this one is another closed case in the EgN files. |
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| Author: | Young Lean [ Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Grey zone" regarding primary weapons |
CharlieKelly wrote: cnnalin wrote: They probably didn't know this cause they didn't attend the admin meeting but I'm pretty sure the rule actually states that if a T has any primary holstered or Unholstered , they can be shot and killed! He quoted the rule as they are on the forums (and should be in-game): Young Lean wrote: Guards (CT): T's may not be warned if they have a primary weapon equipped Which is rule 59, in the CT section. Should just be clarified and this one is another closed case in the EgN files. It's quoted from the in-game rules. |
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| Author: | cnnalin [ Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Grey zone" regarding primary weapons |
Young Lean wrote: CharlieKelly wrote: cnnalin wrote: They probably didn't know this cause they didn't attend the admin meeting but I'm pretty sure the rule actually states that if a T has any primary holstered or Unholstered , they can be shot and killed! He quoted the rule as they are on the forums (and should be in-game): Young Lean wrote: Guards (CT): T's may not be warned if they have a primary weapon equipped Which is rule 59, in the CT section. Should just be clarified and this one is another closed case in the EgN files. It's quoted from the in-game rules. |
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| Author: | mattlikespie [ Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Grey zone" regarding primary weapons |
A terrorist with an unholstered primary may be killed, even if they just picked it up, got planted, etc., that was the intention of the rule. Regardless, we have another rule that already elimates the "grey zone" here. Quote: A prisoner carrying a holstered weapon must always be warned to drop it.
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| Author: | Young Lean [ Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Grey zone" regarding primary weapons |
mattlikespie wrote: A terrorist with an unholstered primary may be killed, even if they just picked it up, got planted, etc., that was the intention of the rule. Regardless, we have another rule that already elimates the "grey zone" here. Quote: A prisoner carrying a holstered weapon must always be warned to drop it. So why not remove the rule stating they do not need a warning? |
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| Author: | CharlieKelly [ Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Grey zone" regarding primary weapons |
Young Lean wrote: mattlikespie wrote: A terrorist with an unholstered primary may be killed, even if they just picked it up, got planted, etc., that was the intention of the rule. Regardless, we have another rule that already elimates the "grey zone" here. Quote: A prisoner carrying a holstered weapon must always be warned to drop it. So why not remove the rule stating they do not need a warning? Both rules should stay, we should just re-word them so they are consistent with each other. Just change "Equipped" to "Un-Holstered" and the confusion is gone. |
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| Author: | Yiggles Moto [ Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Grey zone" regarding primary weapons |
Changed the word from "equipped" to "unholstered" to avoid this confusion. |
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