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Author:  Mr.GoldGames [ Sun Aug 07, 2016 8:27 am ]
Post subject:  CT's Walking into Knives

So on Jailbreak, T's would knife around constantly when a CT asks them to freeze. Just a thing for T's to do when they are waiting for the next order.

Now my understanding is that if a CT walks into your knife, and kills you for knifing him, that was a freekill. Well Geeza did that to me today and killed me for it, saying that higher ups said that it was ok and it was not freekilling. Now this is not a complaint on Geeza, cause we both are confused on this, but i would like a clarification on this.

Why would it be ok for CT's to intentionally walk up to knifing T's, and kill them for getting knifed?

Author:  Bourne [ Sun Aug 07, 2016 8:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CT's Walking into Knives

Okay this is easy. No it's not a freekill.
Reason: Say the order was "stack shoulder to shoulder at the bottom of the main cell stair and freeze" that is what you should do not knifing... if you knife and a ct walks into it an kills you if not a freekill, because the orders was not to knife. If there was an order to continuously knife then it's a freekill.

If any further explanation is needed bring it to the admin meeting so we can discuss it there.


Edit: Moved to the Counter-strike Source section.

Author:  Roaxes [ Sun Aug 07, 2016 8:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CT's Walking into Knives

Bourne wrote:
Okay this is easy. No it's not a freekill.
Reason: Say the order was "stack shoulder to shoulder at the bottom of the main cell stair and freeze" that is what you should do not knifing... if you knife and a ct walks into it an kills you if not a freekill, because the orders was not to knife. If there was an order to continuously knife then it's a freekill.

If any further explanation is needed bring it to the admin meeting so we can discuss it there.


Edit: Moved to the Counter-strike Source section.



It can also be said though that the CT is not playing his role as a CT in getting so close to a T knifing intentionally damaging himself and risking gunplanting if killed. While it's not a free kill, the CT doing so should be reminded to play his role.

Author:  The Gongler [ Sun Aug 07, 2016 10:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CT's Walking into Knives

Kharn also said in a meeting a while back you should only knife of you intend to kill somebody

Author:  Ash [ Sun Aug 07, 2016 2:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CT's Walking into Knives

Roaxes wrote:
Bourne wrote:
Okay this is easy. No it's not a freekill.
Reason: Say the order was "stack shoulder to shoulder at the bottom of the main cell stair and freeze" that is what you should do not knifing... if you knife and a ct walks into it an kills you if not a freekill, because the orders was not to knife. If there was an order to continuously knife then it's a freekill.

If any further explanation is needed bring it to the admin meeting so we can discuss it there.


Edit: Moved to the Counter-strike Source section.



It can also be said though that the CT is not playing his role as a CT in getting so close to a T knifing intentionally damaging himself and risking gunplanting if killed. While it's not a free kill, the CT doing so should be reminded to play his role.

This is what some has been acting according too. Including myself.
I strictly see it as failure to do your role as a CT, and I will instantly swap for it.
Atleast untill a further change has come to this, or anything else has been told to do.
Because I recall Kharn saying it is failure to do your role as a Prison Guard.
Bourne?

Author:  SemiAutoNoob [ Sun Aug 07, 2016 6:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CT's Walking into Knives

I also tend to have t's who when a ct tries to get past them to chase a rebel they will knife the ct and be like oh he was to close to me for to long it was baiting. Haha then that t gets shot and I ask the rest of the group if they want to go down the same road as that t.

Author:  Mr.GoldGames [ Sun Aug 07, 2016 6:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CT's Walking into Knives

SemiAutoNoob wrote:
I also tend to have t's who when a ct tries to get past them to chase a rebel they will knife the ct and be like oh he was to close to me for to long it was baiting. Haha then that t gets shot and I ask the rest of the group if they want to go down the same road as that t.


Well as you proved, they are dumb asses. Thats different than whats being presented here.

Author:  Phillip [ Sun Aug 07, 2016 8:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CT's Walking into Knives

It's your fault for punching trees

Author:  Siberiac [ Sun Aug 07, 2016 9:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CT's Walking into Knives

Ash wrote:
Roaxes wrote:
Bourne wrote:
Okay this is easy. No it's not a freekill.
Reason: Say the order was "stack shoulder to shoulder at the bottom of the main cell stair and freeze" that is what you should do not knifing... if you knife and a ct walks into it an kills you if not a freekill, because the orders was not to knife. If there was an order to continuously knife then it's a freekill.

If any further explanation is needed bring it to the admin meeting so we can discuss it there.


Edit: Moved to the Counter-strike Source section.



It can also be said though that the CT is not playing his role as a CT in getting so close to a T knifing intentionally damaging himself and risking gunplanting if killed. While it's not a free kill, the CT doing so should be reminded to play his role.

This is what some has been acting according too. Including myself.
I strictly see it as failure to do your role as a CT, and I will instantly swap for it.
Atleast untill a further change has come to this, or anything else has been told to do.
Because I recall Kharn saying it is failure to do your role as a Prison Guard.
Bourne?


There's no need to try to talk him into a corner. Both can be right. It is not considered a freekill, BUT it's also the CT not doing his job. The CT shouldn't be punished as if it is a freekill, but he is not doing his job either, and thus should be subject to admin punishment.

Author:  SilverHybrid [ Mon Aug 08, 2016 8:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CT's Walking into Knives

This could fall in under play your role as a Guard...But it could also fall in place of don't be an asshole...You are intentionally getting a t to knife you...As i Spin in circles knifing the ground, i see guards trying to get me to knife them, so i stop...I tell them to stop intentionally trying to get me to knife them so they can get a kill...Just saying...Be a dick ct...You get dick t's and when you get dick T's, then the server becomes a disaster

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