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| Author: | Sunny<3 [ Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Texas shooting. |
At least 26 people have been killed and 20 others wounded after a gunman opened fire at a Texas church during a Sunday service. He was later found dead in his car a few miles away. The attack happened at the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, a small town in Wilson County. The victims' ages ranged from 5 to 72. The attacker, was apparently dressed all in black and wearing a bulletproof vest, he opened fire with a Ruger assault rifle outside the church at around 11:30am ( not sure what time you Texas people use ) A local citizen then grabbed his own gun and started returning fire at the gunman who then dropped his gun then fled into his car where he later crashed. It is unsure if the gunman died of a self inflicted gunshot wound or for the injury's suffered from when a local man returned fire. The car also contained several weapons. The shooter is known as Devin Patrick Kelley, 26, he has been reported to have been discharged from the US air force in 2014 following a court cause for assault on his wife and child. The motive for the killings was not immediately clear. More on that story here.
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This has also been called the worst mass shooting in Texas history. What is happening to this world?! The world is becoming a twisted and scary place. I know things have always been like this but it just seems to get worse everyday. I want to everyone to feel safe with where they live and not worry about if they are going to be shot. I hope everyone who lives in thst area stay safe. https://youtu.be/WpYeekQkAdc |
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| Author: | Central [ Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Texas shooting. |
What on earth is with all of the killing. It makes me wonder are these people actually human beings? People have no fucking sense killing our own kind. It makes me sick to my stomach to think people are like that. My sympathy goes to all have been killed and their families. |
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| Author: | GoopSauce [ Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Texas shooting. |
This world is a sick place. There is literally no space safe anymore and it's down right scary thinking I will eventually have to raise a kid in this world. I was actually in my church yesterday when I seen this and couldn't imagine something like that happening here but it could. I guess I will start carrying at church now as well |
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| Author: | whipbone [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Texas shooting. |
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| Author: | Birthstone [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Texas shooting. |
GoopSauce wrote: This world is a sick place. There is literally no space safe anymore and it's down right scary thinking I will eventually have to raise a kid in this world. I was actually in my church yesterday when I seen this and couldn't imagine something like that happening here but it could. I guess I will start carrying at church now as well The world is safer than it has ever been. Its just thst we hear about violence more often and faster than ever. |
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| Author: | Smiles [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Texas shooting. |
Why is this ( ie shootings) more common in america? There is obviously a problem if this keeps happening every month... |
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| Author: | Needy [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Texas shooting. |
Smiles wrote: Why is this ( ie shootings) more common in america? There is obviously a problem if this keeps happening every month... 2nd amendment |
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| Author: | Smiles [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Texas shooting. |
Needy wrote: Smiles wrote: Why is this ( ie shootings) more common in america? There is obviously a problem if this keeps happening every month... 2nd amendment Well the the 2nd amendment sucks, no one should own a assault rifle, you can hunt with a musket or some bows and arrows and protect yourself with em too. |
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| Author: | AJtheGreyBeard025 [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Texas shooting. |
Needy wrote: Smiles wrote: Why is this ( ie shootings) more common in america? There is obviously a problem if this keeps happening every month... 2nd amendment Since I am not only a lawyer, but a prosecutor, I deal with A LOT of unlawful carry of weapon cases....despite Texas being an open carry state. Well its just more than the 2nd amendment....there is a history of private gun ownership that is not only tied to the history of the founders not believing in a standing army and believed in militia volunteers, but also to Post Civil War Wild West. There was no law in the frontier and the only law was those that were armed. That being said, gun ownership rights needs to modernize with the world as it is. No more BS interest group money from the NRA, period! NRA has destroyed any political will and capital to reform gun rights and laws. We need to have all arms in a national registry, need to shore up 3rd party "straw men" buyers, fix exceptions to background checks at gun shows, etc. The gun debate cannot be solved by congress....it needs the courts to define what the 2nd amendment entails. This tragedy however highlights something else other than gun access and rights. That is the grave error the Air force did in not reporting this defendant's convictions to the Feds and also clearly defining domestic violence from simple assault bodily injury. There are 3 instances in which you aren't allowed to have a gun by law: 1. If you are a convicted felon, 2. if you have been convicted of domestic violence (AKA Assault Family Member), and 3. are a member of a gang and are ID'ed as a gang member via tats/street name/etc. There are big differences between Assault Bodily injury & Assault Family Member. Both are Class A misdemeanors which mean both are punishable by a fine of up to $4000 and confinement up to a year in jail. A conviction of Assault Family Member carries what is called an "affirmative finding of family violence" in which if a person convicted of this does it again, it is AUTOMATICALLY a felony which deals in YEARS for punishment rather than months. Whereas with Assault Bodily Injury, you can get as many convictions for it and nothing in terms of getting bumped up to felony charge on subsequent cases happens. Apparently the Airforce and the military in general in its Uniform Code of Military Justice does not have Assault Family Violence, but only Assault. Federal reporting requires it to be assault family violence so i'm not sure even if it was reported it would qualify to prevent him from legally getting a gun due to the statutory nature of the charge. Who knows how many hundreds if not thousands of such cases haven't been reported....... And if they had reported it, they might have been able to take notice of how he escaped a mental institution and get him involuntarily committed. |
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| Author: | Doldol [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Texas shooting. |
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