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| Author: | Sarge [ Mon May 21, 2018 7:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Contribution of the USA National Guard |
There was some Austrlaian talking about the Texas National Guard when he was supposedly overseas as an Australian Soldier (lol what a joke) saying he saw us Americans in Iraq and that he thought we were a joke because we're "Weekend Warriors" (Which isn't and wasn't true during the iraq war). So for all the people who are not educated about how awesome we are, let me run it down for you. The National Guard made up 41 percent of the total force invading Iraq when we were trying to get Saddam. I have a friend who was a ranger who was there and I have two other friends in the Army from my childhood who were also there. And although I talk shit about the reserves, the total fighting force during the invasion was 40 percent of the total fighting source. If you fail at math, this means that 81 percent of the national guard and reserves combined was the total fighting force during the invasion. Not only this, but the national guard and mercenaries helped capture Saddam. And just for people who think the national guard are weak, explain to me how they won this: https://www.nationalguard.com/guard-exp ... est_ranger Before you talk shit about the National Guard, we were the ones in Baghdad and on Camp Ashraf (my unit) during 2007-2008. We fucked shit up. Y'all got me fucked up. |
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| Author: | Xanderian [ Tue May 22, 2018 6:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Contribution of the USA National Guard |
While an active duty soldier is likely to be more trained for combat (or at least more up-to-date on training), national guard soldiers still have to go to basic training and learn combat skills. The way I see it, unless they're not keeping up on their range qualifications, etc., they're probably going to do just fine in combat. Now, because of the different lifestyle (only being a soldier on weekends a month, 2 weeks every year), I would typically assume that a national guardsmen is less disciplined than an active duty soldier, but as long as they're following orders and not doing dumb shit, I don't think that should be such a massive issue. It's not like you're going to be doing some drill and ceremony or some shit across the desert. But, I've never been in combat, so what the hell do I know? |
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| Author: | Sarge [ Sat May 26, 2018 8:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Contribution of the USA National Guard |
Gr1m0ire wrote: While an active duty soldier is likely to be more trained for combat (or at least more up-to-date on training), national guard soldiers still have to go to basic training and learn combat skills. The way I see it, unless they're not keeping up on their range qualifications, etc., they're probably going to do just fine in combat. Now, because of the different lifestyle (only being a soldier on weekends a month, 2 weeks every year), I would typically assume that a national guardsmen is less disciplined than an active duty soldier, but as long as they're following orders and not doing dumb shit, I don't think that should be such a massive issue. It's not like you're going to be doing some drill and ceremony or some shit across the desert. But, I've never been in combat, so what the hell do I know? The fact of the matter is the National Guard has not been weekend warriors for years. They actually get more training than many people think. When I got back from AIT, 2 weeks later they called me and told me I was going to Iraq. In Salina, KS we did CLS which is a Combat Life Saver course. Pretty much it helped you apply what a medic would do in certain situations. We also trained at Ft. Bliss, TX. When we did riot control and a pepper spray combat course (we were pepper sprayed and had to beat someone up and take them down) and also did convoy ops. We were doing what my cousin was doing when we were both overseas, but just in two different places. I was in Iraq and he was in Afghanistan. My friend was force recon in both battles of fallujah and admits that my cousin looked like a pussy, so I think over glorification of active duty components or marines for that matter can be considered a joke. It's all up for debate but I just wanted to share that we are not cowards and we are just as bad ass as active duty forces. The term for active national guard is "Active Guard" and it's the same as active duty. Hope this helps your perspective. |
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| Author: | Doldol [ Sat May 26, 2018 3:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Contribution of the USA National Guard |
Sarge wrote: We fucked shit up. I'm glad that you as an armed foreign entity conducted yourself so responsibly. And well I really don't care for armed forces dick measuring at all, but the article literally says "This year, for the first time", as in it never happened before. Also it talks about 2 people, who may just have decided to maybe, oh idk, train specifically for the competition? It really says nothing about any group they belong to as big as your national guard. |
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| Author: | Dave [ Sat May 26, 2018 5:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Contribution of the USA National Guard |
Sarge wrote: Before you talk shit about the National Guard, we were the ones in Baghdad and on Camp Ashraf (my unit) during 2007-2008. We fucked shit up. Y'all got me fucked up. As a active duty soldier I still have to call you a weekend warrior, but as a fellow brother in arms fuck those kangaroo calvary duck mongers for trying to shit on my brothers. |
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