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Mr.GoldGames wrote:

Okay this thread needs to stop.

We will look at this and give a proper response soon. Probably Kharn will, but if not one of the Staff will.

I know you guys want to discuss this, but it's become repetitive and I see you all are looking for a response from Staff+. So we will come up with one and post it here.

Until then, this post will remain locked so no more shit storms appear.

I thought it was going pretty well? Only rude person was link but after i was nice to him even after he was rude he felt bad and stopped. I put a lot of thought and time into that post and was interested in what ppl had to say. If someone starts shit talking or being repetitive just let them know or ban them right?

You guys are exhausting the thread too much. Staff+ saw that post as you guys were trying to understand what the actual rules were. So why don't we just lock the thread, tell you what to actually do, then move on with our lives? I don't see why that thread needs I continue when the goal is to get a clear understanding of the rules? It doesn't matter what anyone else really thinks, whatever the Staff+ says, goes. Feel me?

I actually disagree a lot with what you just said. I dont think its staffs job to tell everyone what to do. I think their job is to understand what everyone wants and why they think what they think, then come up with a solution that will work best for everyone. Why would you lock a thread while people are still explaining what they want and how they feel about the situation. People will be left feeling/knowing that staff didn't give a shit about what they had to say and they wont come to you to tell you whats wrong cuz they know you dont care what they think is wrong. That's just asking for trouble.

Do you want to talk ot out in TS?

Sure, I'll let you know when I can.

Author:	Mr. Simplistic [ Tue May 09, 2017 1:04 am ]
Post subject:	Staff?
Staff: Quote: I posted a concerns thread, and instead of it being taken seriously, it was shit on and no concerns were addressed Also staff: Quote: Spoiler: Show You guys are exhausting the thread too much. Staff+ saw that post as you guys were trying to understand what the actual rules were. So why don't we just lock the thread, tell you what to actually do, then move on with our lives? I don't see why that thread needs I continue when the goal is to get a clear understanding of the rules? It doesn't matter what anyone else really thinks, whatever the Staff+ says, goes. Feel me? Members:

Author:	Minion [ Tue May 09, 2017 1:12 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Staff?
Which one is it!? Do our opinions MATTER or do they NOT? News Reporter Rias here, on the spot, ready to receive word from Staff+.

Author:	Y S0 S3R10US [ Tue May 09, 2017 1:24 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Staff?
Um Hello?

Author:	Jimmah [ Tue May 09, 2017 2:48 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Staff?
I'm confused about which thread you are specifically referring to.

Author:	Mr. Simplistic [ Tue May 09, 2017 2:54 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Staff?
First one is from chatbox not too long ago (bout 2hrs) second one was from a pm.

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Author:	Minion [ Tue May 09, 2017 3:00 am ]
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After dangerous, extensive research, I have found the thread GoldGames refers to in Lunk's quote.

Author:	Mr.GoldGames [ Tue May 09, 2017 7:21 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Staff?
Wow, so this was taken out of context. Ill be honest and say that all those posts and pm's were from me, and accept any flack anyone else wants to give me at this point. However, those messages have an entirely different meaning to it when you have the full conversation. So here it is: Spoiler: Show Lunk wrote: Subject: Breaking Vents/Secrets Mr.GoldGames wrote: Okay this thread needs to stop. We will look at this and give a proper response soon. Probably Kharn will, but if not one of the Staff will. I know you guys want to discuss this, but it's become repetitive and I see you all are looking for a response from Staff+. So we will come up with one and post it here. Until then, this post will remain locked so no more shit storms appear. I thought it was going pretty well? Only rude person was link but after i was nice to him even after he was rude he felt bad and stopped. I put a lot of thought and time into that post and was interested in what ppl had to say. If someone starts shit talking or being repetitive just let them know or ban them right? Mr.GoldGames wrote: You guys are exhausting the thread too much. Staff+ saw that post as you guys were trying to understand what the actual rules were. So why don't we just lock the thread, tell you what to actually do, then move on with our lives? I don't see why that thread needs I continue when the goal is to get a clear understanding of the rules? It doesn't matter what anyone else really thinks, whatever the Staff+ says, goes. Feel me? Lunk wrote: I actually disagree a lot with what you just said. I dont think its staffs job to tell everyone what to do. I think their job is to understand what everyone wants and why they think what they think, then come up with a solution that will work best for everyone. Why would you lock a thread while people are still explaining what they want and how they feel about the situation. People will be left feeling/knowing that staff didn't give a shit about what they had to say and they wont come to you to tell you whats wrong cuz they know you dont care what they think is wrong. That's just asking for trouble. Lunk wrote: Do you want to talk ot out in TS? Mr.GoldGames wrote: Sure, I'll let you know when I can. So as far as I can see, when you have the full conversation, you can see there was some kind of confusion going on and we were going to talk about it on TeamSpeak. Instead, Simplistic decided to put the conversation on here to I guess stir the pot with the community. Im honestly tired of trying to work things out with people in this community, because my messages are rather sent to higher ups and nothing happens, or they get posted on threads in the community. Where is the sense of privacy there? I dont see why you wont give me the same respect I give you. I could have just ignored you and kept on with my day, but I responded to you with something I felt was true. So to try to explain myself, because apparently Im supposed to justify myself to you all, the first quote Simplistic has is very true. Every time I try to give to the community such as a concerns thread, it receives nothing but shit posts and disrespect. There was two concerns by SemiAutoNoob and Charlie Kelly which the Staff+ and I talked about, but that was it. Honestly every time I make a post, my words get twisted around to make me look like a shitty person. I never mean the shit people make my words out to be, and at this point its getting annoying. I cant just stop posting on threads, because I will be talked to by higher ups about why I'm not doing anything in the community. I'd appreciate it if people would stop doing that, and stop looking at some points and just making this huge assumption, then using that information to rather hurt my credibility in the community, or my morals as a person outside the community. I don't have a negative attitude towards members, higher ups, or this community. I don't see why people keep assuming I do. If you find something I say concerning, I'd appreciate it if you would come to me on a pm, keep those pm's private, and schedule a day to meet up on TeamSpeak. I dont see why thats on this thread, but thats my explanation i guess. To explain the second post, that was part of the PM I sent to Simplistic. It was a entirely different meaning then what Is written here. It was supposed to mean, "At the end of the day, it doesnt matter what the members say the rule is, what the Staff+ says goes as far as rules." However, if you would like to discuss the rules, there is an admin meeting scheduled soon. You can find that post here: viewtopic.php?f=57&t=25069 I saw that the post wanted a clear answer about what rules to use, so I locked the thread because Link and Simplistic were both complaining about shit posters and how the thread got annoying. So I decided to lock it the first time, but Needy requested it'd be unlocked because there was more she wanted to discuss/learn. So I agreed and said to keep it as an explanation. But then there were more passive/aggressive complaints that someone had an attitude on that same thread in the Network Chat. So I decided to just lock it and say "Staff will come up with a clear response." If you want to argue the rules, then head over to the admin meeting. That will allow you to get it changed. Staff+ arent just going to change the rules right then and there. Thats why Matt is having this meeting. So, I thought you all could just save it for the meeting. Simplistic, I honestly think it was quite disrespectful of you to air our conversation out to the public like this, even after you wanted me to clarify myself on TeamSpeak. I honestly don't understand why you didnt just wait until we had a chance to talk about this like adults. I dont really know how this post is supposed to make me feel, but I do know that you've lost my trust entirely. I guess ill have to spell out every word for you, to ensure my meaning doesnt get thrown around like it has. I guess I'm just going to have to ask another Staff member to PM you since I cant trust you to keep the PM's private. Thats the whole point of a personal message, or at least thats what the meaning used to be. I don't know anymore. Kids these days think there are 46,000 genders, so they probably changed the meaning of personal messages to "Even though its says personal in the title, the new meaning of this word is lets take that message and show everyone because its not personal." Idk, thats all I gotta say really. Hate me if you want. At the end of the day I know im doing good. Im not here to justify myself to everyone and stand up for myself every time someone wants to make me look like a shitty person. So if you wanna talk shit, go ahead. But I dont have the strength to make more justification replies to satisfy the crowd. Thats all from me.

Author:	McNugget [ Tue May 09, 2017 7:47 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Staff?
Mr.GoldGames wrote: . It was a entirely different meaning then what Is written here. It was supposed to mean, "At the end of the day, it doesnt matter what the members say the rule is, what the Staff+ says goes as far as rules." To be honest that doesn't sound any different than what simp said. I do agree with the messages part of this rant. PMs stands for private message, and that's exactly what they are. PRIVATE messages, and that was wrong of simple to post them but on the flip side simp put alot of effort in links thread and his efforts were simply dismissed with a "staff will handle this" comment. So I can see why he retaliated like this.

Author:	SemiAutoNoob [ Tue May 09, 2017 7:54 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Staff?
That's it time to start an investigation team. EgN-I SemiAutoNoob at your service here to keep members and staff in check at all times to make sure there are no over reaches in power. Well simp didn't put golds name in the post he generalized it as staff so even though it was private it became a discussion without him throwing gold under the bus. Soo I would never have known it was golds posts except for my fine investigation techniques.

Author:	Minion [ Tue May 09, 2017 8:04 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Staff?
McNugget wrote: Mr.GoldGames wrote: . It was a entirely different meaning then what Is written here. It was supposed to mean, "At the end of the day, it doesnt matter what the members say the rule is, what the Staff+ says goes as far as rules." To be honest that doesn't sound any different than what simp said. It is different. The way simp quoted it made it seem that Staff+ did not care about what members thought about in general, but YellowGames was referring to something else (the thread about the vent issue).

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